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    Starting this cycle in April

    I got all the gear together , but not starting until April. I stopped my previous cycle a month ago and have to let my body get back to normal.
    Anyway , here is what I'm going to run.............

    Liquidex .25mg ed wks 1-16
    D-bol 35mg ed wks 1-4
    Eq 600mg ew wks 1-15
    Sus 500mg ew wks 1-15
    Winny 50mg ed wks 13-18
    Clomid 300/100/50 starting wk 18

    The question is........Does liquidex combat against gyno for the components I'm taking. I have novaldex just in case !
    Thanks
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    you should be fine with nolva on hand ,i would up the dose of eq to 600/wk but thats just me.goodluck

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    Matt.........yea that was what I was thinking since I ran it last cycle at 400mg ew , and then I upped it in the middle of my cycle to 600mg (i know your not suppose to do that,but...) so I think 600mg would be perfect. Looks like I'll need another 10ml........gotta order now!

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    just make sure you have ala and milk thistle running 2 17aas.be safe

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    Originally posted by Matt Foley
    just make sure you have ala and milk thistle running 2 17aas.be safe
    Well , I'm thinking there is a long enough gap between the d-bol and winny....so I think I'll be ok. Yea I got the ala and milk thistle handy right now. I've got alot of time before I start and I'm making sure all is in place before I make that first stick

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    Up the EQ dose and I would run the winny weeks 13 thru 18. Start Clomid three days after last Winny dose. This will allow you to not have any 'gray' area in your cycle.

    Good Luck

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    yup,solid!

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    Originally posted by Diesel
    Up the EQ dose and I would run the winny weeks 13 thru 18. Start Clomid three days after last Winny dose. This will allow you to not have any 'gray' area in your cycle.

    Good Luck

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    Ok , I'll switch the winny to those wks...........one more thing , I'm taking winny tabs and I thought the clomid should start 8-12 hours after last dose , am I right ? I read that somewhere in Cycleons post on clomid.

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    I just re-read my post and yea........what the hell was I thinking wks 10-15 Thanks for clearing that up for me !

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    you run clomid 3 weeks after your last eq inject

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    Thats true bro , but I'll be running winny tabs 3 weeks past last injection so it would be 8-12 hours after last winny tab.........right?
    I mean , that is what cycleons post on clomid says

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    Here it is

    Anadrol /Anapolan: 8 - 12 hours after last administration
    Deca : 3 weeks after last injection and clomid for 4 weeks
    Dianabol : 4 – 8 hours after last administration
    Equipoise : 17 – 21 days after last injection
    Fina: 3 days after last injection
    Primobolan depot: 10 – 14 days after last injection
    Sustanon : 3 weeks after last injection
    Testosterone Cypionate : 2 weeks after last injection
    Testosterone Enanthate : 2 weeks after last injection
    Testosterone Propionate : 3 days after last injection
    Testosterone Suspension : 4 – 8 hours after last administration
    Winstrol : 8 – 12 hours after last administration

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    Originally posted by Diesel
    Up the EQ dose and I would run the winny weeks 13 thru 18. Start Clomid three days after last Winny dose. This will allow you to not have any 'gray' area in your cycle.

    Good Luck

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    his chart looks pertty accurate to me.so yes!
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    CRAP........I'm starting to doubt myself ! I want to make sure I'm not going to light with this cycle. I'm 5'7" 185 been training since I was 13 and this is my 3rd cycle . Last cycle was eq 400mg ew, t200400mg ew d-bol 30mg ed and winny 50mg ed. What do you think ? If I don't get many replys I'll repost.

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    IM0 your not going to light, cycle looks pretty well planned out, but you can tweak the doses.
    dbol 40mg ed 1-4
    eq 400mg ew 1-15 (i think the length on eq is more important than the dose)
    sust 750mg ew 1-15 (shoot m/w/f, I'm assuming you've used test in your two previous cycles)
    winny 50mg ed 13-18
    Just my 2cents!

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    Thanks bro , yea that was where I was thinking of tweaking it a bit , going from 500mg of test to 750mg. With all the info about the short esters and all............I was tossing around doing it just like you said , mon,wed,friday. Thanks
    Oh, and yea I've done test in all my cycles

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    With running this long of a cycle , I'm wondering if I should run hcg in the middle of it. Someone tell me 1) when 2) how much 3) how long.
    Please ...someone who has ALOT of knowledge with hcg. Thanks

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    bump ....for the last post

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    hcg doses in the middle

    IMO you should inject the equivalent of 5000 IUs in the middle of your cycle, that's week 7 and 8. But i would do it in several injections with smaller amounts of hcg . after the end of the cycle too, of course.
    kiro

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    Re: hcg doses in the middle

    Originally posted by kiro
    IMO you should inject the equivalent of 5000 IUs in the middle of your cycle, that's week 7 and 8. But i would do it in several injections with smaller amounts of hcg . after the end of the cycle too, of course.
    kiro
    I've decided not to run hcg , a lot of people think it not necessary. So I'm gonna just keep it the way it is. Thanks

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