liquid clen

**jacked19** · 02-03-2003, 06:35 PM

I just got some liquid clen from RK (for reaserch). I was wandering what is the best method and how much should i take of this stuff? I have always heard that 2 weeks/ 1week off(using ephedra)/ 2 weeks on. lately i have been hearing of 2 days on and 1 day off? How much should I start off with and then build too? I juiced early this year and did a full on bulk cycle it was awesome i gained like 20 pds. I did develop a bit of a gut and thats what im going to use the clen for, but should i still lift real heavy or go lighter?

**painintheazz** · 02-03-2003, 08:41 PM

I started my liquid clen 4 days ago. It is some good stuff bro. I have all those wonderfull sides.... The shakes are the best, people think I am on heroin. As for the cycle I am trying the 2 weeks on 2 weeks off. Then next I am going to try the 2 day/1day. Only way to see which one is better for sure is try them both for yourself. Know what I mean. As for lifting if you are trying to lose some BF then you should go lighter with higher reps. Or you can still try to go heavy but I have a hard time going heavy whenever I start to cut down. My diet and the extra cardio doesn't support it. Always seem to lose a little strength and my joints feel like shit. Those are my thoughts.

Pain

**jacked19** · 02-05-2003, 07:37 PM

How many mcg are using?

**painintheazz** · 02-05-2003, 07:49 PM

48,48,72,72,72,96 mcg. Those are for each day. Kind of high to start with but I like the shakes, lets me know it is working. Now that I am up to 96mcg per day I take it twice, once in the morning and once later in the day. I think I am going to stay at 96mcg for awhile and see how that treats me, I might go up to 120mcg per day. Not sure yet, going to play it by ear.

Pain

**jacked19** · 02-07-2003, 06:35 PM

painintheazz thanks for the info bro,
I got 1 more question, Im going to be using liquid clen , the bottle came with a dropper butits only got a .4 ml and a .8 ml which is 400 (mcg) and 800(mcg) so i was wandering if you knew of some way to measure this stuff for proper dosage?
thank

**painintheazz** · 02-07-2003, 06:42 PM

The .4 and .8 refers to the ml not the mcg amount. The actual amount in 1ml is 120mcg of clen . That is why my amounts are messed up because I use .4ml, .6ml, .8ml Do you see what I am saying? I personally only use the dropper if I am going in increments of .4ml. Otherwise I use a syring, draw it up with a needle then take the needle off and sqirt in mouth. Yummy, it actually does taste pretty good. BTW measuring small amounts like .2ml you will have a large margin of error, the higher you dose the easier you will find it to measure. Any more questions bro??

Pain

**painintheazz** · 02-07-2003, 06:43 PM

BTW I just got 200 - 20mcg clen 's in pill form today so soon I will be able to rate the effectiveness of RK liquid version vs pill form.....

Pain

**daem** · 02-07-2003, 10:53 PM

great, i know alot of people will be eager to see your comparison, myself included.

**Rumpster** · 02-08-2003, 01:38 AM

I'd like to know too. I had some novegam clen which was pure crap. I could only find spiro for $1/tab which higher than I wanted to pay. I got 100 tabs of 40mcg clen instead for $65. Still wondering if I should've gotten the spiro or licquid I didn't like the inconveniece of the liquid, since I'd need to take it at work.

**painintheazz** · 02-08-2003, 05:42 AM

The liquid is a bit of a inconvenience, measuring "odd" amounts you need a syring.

Pain

**ME@T E@TER** · 02-08-2003, 11:32 AM

This is my first time taking liquid clen and I read on this website under the steroid profile thing that I should start with 20 mcg's a day for a little bit and then finish up with 140 mcg's max. I just took .25 cc of some clen and I was wondering if I should bump it up to more, or am I supposed to take it more than once a day? What are the general guidelines for this kinda stuff?

**painintheazz** · 02-08-2003, 12:02 PM

They say that you should try to bump up your dosage when you get used to the sides from your current dosage. That is what I do, when I start feeling good on my current dosage I up it another 20mcg. When I get into the higher dosages, above 80mcg, I usually split it up twice a day. I am pretty sure you don't have to do this because I have heard that Clen has a long 1/2 life, I think 36 hours or so, so you will be fine with a once a day treatment. I just prefer to breakdown higher dosages of things because I think they get better utilized by the body. Hope this helps. BTW .25cc is 30mcg of clen and that is a good first dosage.

Pain

**jacked19** · 02-08-2003, 12:51 PM

I don't know if this is any help but my buddy e-mailed a guy on the r/k reaserch board named chem. He says to take a whole dropper a day which I think is crazy thats like 120 (mcg) a day to start, and thats how you take it.

**Rumpster** · 02-08-2003, 02:04 PM

That is a good daily dosage, but don't do it all at once. liquid clen may not be as potent as real clen. no idea.

**painintheazz** · 02-08-2003, 02:47 PM

I would work my way up to 120mcg a day, the sides would be pretty annoying I would think.

Pain

**Decoder** · 02-08-2003, 03:29 PM

Pain how much weight to you expect to drop? from clen .

**painintheazz** · 02-08-2003, 07:00 PM

Well, right now I have cleaned my diet down to about 2300cals a day. I have some days were I bump it up. I have also started doing some of my cardio in the morning on an empty stomach (usually I do my cardio at night because I LOVE lifting in the morning.) So I do 3 cardio sessions in the morning for 40mins and then I do 2 more cardio sessions at night. I still lift everybody part once a week, so I have 6 weight training sessions thrown in too. Plus I am using the Test Enth that is left over from my bulking cycle and some homemade fina to keep my muscle and help shed some extra fat. Also I am cycling my clen with T3. So how much fat do I expect to lose, a lot I hope. Right now I am at about 15%BF I would like to be down to 9%, that is my goal don't know if I will be able to obtain it, in about 6 weeks when I am going to be done with this current cycle and starting clomid. I will take a good long look at myself and decide what should be done next, I will probably just maintain for a month and then either Bulk or cut naturally for a few months and then hope back on the special sauce. Personally I have never used clen or T3 before so I don't know what to expect. I have had great luck with sheding fat in the past with just diet and cardio, but I am ready to bring my body below 10%BF and I think I will need a little help..... Decoder do you have any estimates on how much you think I will lose. BTW, I put you on my AIM list talk to you soon.

Pain

**Decoder** · 02-08-2003, 07:10 PM

How much did you weigh before the cycle and currently also tell me how long you have been on this cycle ( I forget) and how many more weeks to go, i should be able to throw a good estimate.

**painintheazz** · 02-08-2003, 07:29 PM

When I started I was 203, the highest I hit was 240, now I am at 227 (I lost some water after I was done with DBol and I have been getting into a cutting mode for about 2 weeks and have noticed my BF come down nicely, I think I am only about 1 or 2% above my BF when I started.) I bulked for 8 weeks, and the past 2 weeks have been slowly dropping the cals and adding some cardio, now I think my body is ready for the full shreading cycle. I am planing on cycling 2 - 2week clen cycles and 1 -3 week T3 cycle in the next six weeks, then I run out of Fina and start clomid. Anything else you need to know?? Do you think I will be able to get down to 9% BF, I have heard T3 is pretty damn good? Any input will be appreciated.

Pain
BTW I would chat with you but I am supposed to be getting ready to go out with my boys.

**Decoder** · 02-08-2003, 09:35 PM

nope not 9% in 6 weeks. My boy did DNP and still didnt drop that much. i would estimate from 15% a possible 4% drop. So around 11% That's like 8-10 pounds of body fat. But if your diet is badass you could break 4% it all depends. On a deca /primo/test bulk cycle i dropped 2% once..Anyways im going out with my boy's too blowing time lata.

**painintheazz** · 02-09-2003, 12:59 AM

Thanks bro, like I said 9% is my goal (you gota have high goals). I rember your boys thread on his DNP cycle, I am pretty sure it is who I am thinking of, I don't think I am ready or need to get into DNP yet. Hopefully this Clen and T3 treat me nice. Talk to you later.

Pain

**woodsy169** · 03-19-2003, 10:13 AM

Pain, how does the RK liquidclen compare to the pills?

**painintheazz** · 03-19-2003, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by woodsy169
Pain, how does the RK liquidclen compare to the pills?

I think they were the same. I got the same amount of shakes and whatnot. Fat loss was the same also IMO. Pills are easier IMO. You can dose them easier and take them anywhere. RK makes a quality product, but liquid is just a painintheazz sometimes.

Pain