Does this mean LIVER damage??

**m16a2** · 02-04-2003, 12:50 AM

I was looking through my blood test and saw that my SGOT is 103 when the normal range is 8.5-10.5

I looked around google for what SGOT meant, and its supposed to be an indication of liver damage. It freaked me out since all these hepetitis websites came up!!

Anyways, Does anyone know what that SGOT finding would mean?

**Matt Foley** · 02-04-2003, 01:07 AM

SGOT: Serum Glutamic Oxaloacetic Transaminase and/or AST
the standard reference range for males: 5.0-40.0 IU/L
did your doctor take the sample?or was it a mailout?yes its an elevated liver enzyme.are you "ON" cycle?

**m16a2** · 02-04-2003, 01:15 AM

Nope, I'm about 8 weeks off my cycle. I went into the clinic and had the blood tests done during an appointment. I just thought I'd pickup my printouts since I got the testosterone one back too. The only adnormal readings were test and sgot. I need to figure out what I can do, if I can do anything to help. Maybe supps that help the liver?

**Matt Foley** · 02-04-2003, 01:20 AM

Originally posted by rampage76
Nope, I'm about 8 weeks off my cycle. I went into the clinic and had the blood tests done during an appointment. I just thought I'd pickup my printouts since I got the testosterone one back too. The only adnormal readings were test and sgot. I need to figure out what I can do, if I can do anything to help. Maybe supps that help the liver?

yea those are both enzymes that are affected by gear.i know rickson would say try tylers liver detox but i think ala/r-ala might help you level out.how soon after your last injection did you have it tested?

**m16a2** · 02-04-2003, 01:22 AM

Originally posted by Matt Foley

yea those are both enzymes that are affected by gear.i know rickson would say try tylers liver detox but i think ala/r-ala might help you level out.how soon after your last injection did you have it tested?

I had it taken on the 21st, I had my last injection dec 11th, so about 5-6 wks

**painintheazz** · 02-04-2003, 06:17 AM

I would PM DickRenegade I think he knows a good amount about that type of stuff. Sorry if he doesn't! But I can remember him posting a bunch of stuff about that type of stuff a little while back.

Pain

***Pheedno*** · 02-04-2003, 07:34 AM

Ramp, what was your cycle?

Anyhoo, I would immediately get on 3000iu's of Vitamin E
1500mg of ALA

You also want to look into N-acetyl cysteine which is a source of the amino acid cycteine which the body uses to make the antioxidant gutathione.

It's commonly used in HIV patients but I think the benefits may help in your ailment. Check it out first though for any possible down sides.

**m16a2** · 02-04-2003, 10:49 AM

Pheedno, it was test 600 mg/wk for 11 weeks and deca 400 mg/wk for 10 wks. No orals or 17aa's

I'll start the vitamin e and ala today.

FUCK. If anyone else has some advice or insight, please don't be shy!

**Tom** · 02-04-2003, 11:10 AM

I didnt know test or deca was harsh on the liver. I know people say that just heavy lifting alone can raise you liver values

**m16a2** · 02-04-2003, 11:30 AM

Originally posted by Tom
I didnt know test or deca was harsh on the liver. I know people say that just heavy lifting alone can raise you liver values

I just read an article that says that nandrolone and test are not toxic to liver. I'm sure that all aas are stressful to the liver, but the orals are quite toxic. I didn't do any orals, so I'm really surprised to find out I have this...

**Deadend** · 02-04-2003, 12:34 PM

I think you should go back to the doctor bro, your liver problem does not necessarily have to be limited to steroids .

Alot of people around here have been walking around with mono for weeks at a time and not knowing they have it. This can cause an increase.

Taking to much tylenol, or pain pills can cause increase as well. My values were slightly raised a couple of weeks ago due to muscle relaxers.

Either way, get some professional advice, I mean we're talking about a vital organ here.

**Big Rush** · 02-04-2003, 12:49 PM

No offense to anyone who has given advice, but the best thing you can do is go back to the doctor bro. Why chance it?

**monstercojones** · 02-04-2003, 01:17 PM

i agree with Big Rush- go see your Doc. Dont take unnecessary risks when it comes to your body.

**m16a2** · 02-04-2003, 03:51 PM

Originally posted by Big Rush
No offense to anyone who has given advice, but the best thing you can do is go back to the doctor bro. Why chance it?

Word, hopefully things will be back to normal soon.

***Pheedno*** · 02-05-2003, 07:47 AM

Originally posted by rampage76

Word, hopefully things will be back to normal soon.

Keep us posted on outcome ramp. I'm also curious as to what the doc tells you for prevention if you go and see him.

**m16a2** · 02-05-2003, 11:19 AM

I have an appointment scheduled for a little under 3 weeks. im gonna try to get my test checked again as well. The doctor is the chief of the med staff at this clinic, so she oughta have some good advice.