Thread: I'd like your opinion
02-14-2003, 01:19 PM #1
I'd like your opinion
Here's what I have at the moment:
50ml of QV Prop (100mg/ml)
10ml of QV enanthate (250mg/ml)
20ml of QV Winny (50mg/ml)
30 clomids, 25 ** nolvas (20mg, I know they're good I've already used some)
1ml of liquidex = 4mg arimidex
Here's what I'm thinking - Purchase 10ml deca 300 and 20 more ml of winny and run a cycle something like this
wks 1- 2: 100mg prop ed, 250mg enanthate/wk, 300mg deca/wk
wks 3-6: 50mg prop ed, 250mg enanthate/wk, 300mg deca/wk
wks 7-8: 50mg prop ed, 250mg enanthate/wk, 300mg deca wk, 50mg winny ed
wks 9-10: 50mg prop ed, 250mg enanthate/wk, 50mg winny ed
wks 11-12: 100mg prop ed, 50mg winny ed
Clomid/Nolva to follow
Suggestions, Comments, Questions????
02-14-2003, 01:22 PM #2
mabye frontload the enth also.
02-14-2003, 10:34 PM #3
17 views and one response eh....
anyway, thanks for the advice, but I'm banking on the 700mg/wk of prop being enough to kickstart this one.
02-14-2003, 11:48 PM #4
Looks like a winner bro! What do you plan on accomplishing? Bulk? Also, why do you feel you need to taper the Prop down after week 2?
02-15-2003, 12:37 AM #5
Why not save the enan and go with the prop through the whole cycle?
02-15-2003, 01:25 AM #6
i think the prop is his test frontlaod....
02-15-2003, 03:18 PM #7
I buy stuff when I find it for cheap, I got the enanthate basically for free and picked all that prop up for pretty cheap, so I'm fairly set on using that for my test. I'm tapering the prop because when the enanthate kicks in, I'll be getting 600mg/wk of test, and I don't want to go too much over that for this one.
I'm looking to bulk and cut I guess, that's always what I've done, put on mass as quickly as possible, then clean up the diet for the second half of the cycle while still making smaller gains.
I'm also looking to spend as little as possible, which is why I'm just getting one vial of deca and one more vial of winny.
Also, and I'd like some opinions on this too, like I mentioned, I only have 25 nolvas and 4mg of arimidex . My plan is to hop on the arimidex at .25mg per day if I start to see signs of gyno ( I realize this dosage will still allow for some aromitization) and run the nolva at 20mg per day until gyno goes, at which point I will continue to run the arimidex until it runs out, but stop running the Nolva. I can always just stop running the prop midway through the cycle if gyno persists, which is why I really like prop, nice and versatile.
02-15-2003, 03:27 PM #8
If you start having gyno symptons, what I would do is run the Arimidex at .25mg ED until it runs out them start Nolva at 20mg ED until it runs out and in the mean time order more Nolva. Basically, what you have would probably just tide you over. IMO, you need more Nolva on hand just to play it safe.
02-15-2003, 08:34 PM #9
Definitely a good idea bro, but the thing that worries me is that arimidex prevents aromitization, it doesn't block receptors, so will it countereact already present gyno symptoms?? Also, I'd rather not run nolva the entire time because I think it might hurt my gains. ??? Whatcha think??? BTW, I really need to make some good gains on this one, I've lost 20 pounds in the last few months due to mono and an injury that's kept me out of the gym. I'm down to 220 right now.
02-15-2003, 09:59 PM #10
do what you planned on doing with the nolva/dex.
you are correct in assuming that liquidex is an estrogen inhibitor, and it wont have any effect on estrogen that is already in your system once you start using it.
if you get symptoms, start both.
B.R. is right on one point though............you need more nolva.
02-16-2003, 05:23 PM #11
Thanks for the advice BB, I was thinking of just cutting the prop out for a week if I start to see gyno and hitting the nolva/arimi as I don't want to take nolva for that long because I know it will hinder my gains at least a little. But, cutting down the test will probably hinder my gains even more, so I guess I'll get some more nolva, and probably a little more arimidex too in case the bloat gets bad. I appreciate the advice guys..
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