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    taking testerona 4 la and feel like shit help

    testerona 4 la is the same chemically as sustanon .i did 750 mg last week and 500 this week .never gone this high in doses of androgens before and dont know what to expect.
    here is what my cycle looks like

    drug week dose
    test 1 750mg
    test 2&3 500mg
    test 4 250mg
    test 5 125
    off of test
    primo 1&2 100 mg
    primo 3-5 200 mg
    primo 6-8 300 mg
    winnie 5-8 25 mg daily

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    IMO that's not a very good cycle....not trying to flame

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    well hell explain why not.and i asked why i feel like shit.

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    When did you ask why you feel like shit, all you said was you don't know what to expect and outlined your cycle. As for why I don't think it's a good cycle:
    1. Only 5 weeks of test
    2. Don't taper your dose
    3. Why not run the primo and test at the same time
    4. Run the primo at a constant does i.e 400mg ew
    5. I would run winny for more than 4 weeks and more than 25mg ed
    6. You should finish your winny 3 weeks after your last test or primo shot so you can start your clomid within 2 days
    IMO
    Test 500mg ew 1-12
    Primo 400mg ew 1-12
    Winny 50mg ed 10-15
    Clomid 300mg day 1, 100mg next 10, and 50mg 10 more

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    taking test for a long time at a consistent dose will do two things .1 will totally shut down your endogenouse test production and 2 will saturate your receptors meaning your wasting the rest of your dose.after you get off a long cycle like this your body will crash .what i am doing is hitting the receptors with a high dose and then taperingto shock them bringin up the anabolic drug primo woll solidify the gains without further hurting your bodys' own test lvl. also i know how my body responds to winstrol and i am taking tabs.winnie is my drug of choice.
    thank for the input though maybe this will help you understand my cycle.

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    You feeling like shit has nothing to do with T4, it's a mental thing.

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    it aint mental bro its every day after i take a shot and it leaves a knot the size of a softball.i ve done sust before and i always felt bulletproof.

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    Everytime i took T4 it leaves a knot , it's strong stuff , that is completely normal.

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    T4 is different than sus man, if you mix it with deca it doesn't hurt half as bad.

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    if your talking about t 400 thats not what im taking .its loeffler testerona 4 la 250 mgs.same test blend as sust

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    well im talking about something else then, but it seems to have the same effect as T4 once injected sorness wise.

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    yeah the soreness is just like t 400 ive takin it too.but this shit fuckin sucks

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    yah well, make a better cycle next time. you need to be on most of that shit longer.

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    my cycle monday looks like this
    T400 weeks 1-10 800mg
    deca300 weeks 1-10 600mg
    winny weeks 8-13 50mg ed

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    did you read my reasons why i only do short androgen cycles

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    yup, thats what HCG and CLOMID are for! will saturate your receptors meaning your wasting the rest of your dose <-- take an ECA to bump up metabolism this will make your receptors work more effciently and use more of the dosage.

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    yeah i have nolvadex ,arimidex and clomid but no hcg .plus i got a slight case of gyno and dont want it to get any worse by taking hcg.

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    Originally posted by latasaurus
    taking test for a long time at a consistent dose will do two things .1 will totally shut down your endogenouse test production and 2 will saturate your receptors meaning your wasting the rest of your dose.after you get off a long cycle like this your body will crash .what i am doing is hitting the receptors with a high dose and then taperingto shock them bringin up the anabolic drug primo woll solidify the gains without further hurting your bodys' own test lvl.
    Just use Clomid post cycle, or even HCG if you are that concerned.

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