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    Smile first cycle critique

    hey...this is my first post. Ive been doing a lot of reasearch and reading on here and other sites and have a couple questions. My stats are;

    24yrs.old 5'11''-6ft. 175lbs. 13in. arms 46in. shoulders 36 in.chest
    I would like to get to 200lbs after my cycle.

    I used to weigh 150lbs. and trained and ate to gain, naturally put on 25lbs. at 22 yrs. old. This took me two months, but I was also naturally growing at the time.

    This will be my first cycle;

    Dianabol5 mg tab.
    Testosterone Enanthate 250 mg/ml
    HCG 5000 W.
    Clenbuterol 0.02 mg tab.
    Weeks 1-5 Dianabol and Deca
    1 15 mg/d 200 mg/w
    2 20 mg/d 200 mg/w
    3 25 mg/d 200 mg/w
    4 30 mg/d 200 mg/w
    5 35 mg/d 200 mg/w
    Week 6 Dianabol, Deca and HCG
    6 40 mg/d 200 mg/w 7000 i.u./w
    Week 7 Deca,Test,HCG
    7 400 mg/w 500 mg/w 7000 i.u./w
    Weeks 8-11 Deca and Test
    8 400 mg/w 500 mg/w
    9 400 mg/w 500 mg/w
    10 200 mg/w 500 mg/w
    11 200 mg/w 500 mg/w
    Week 12 Deca,Test and HCG
    12 100 mg/w 250 mg/w 7000 i.u./w
    Week 13 Deca,HCG,Clenbuterol
    13 50 mg/w 7000 i.u./w 80 mcg/d
    Weeks 14-20 HCG and Clenbuterol
    14 - 20 7000 i.u./w 120 mcg/d

    This cycle was suggested off this site, and after reasearch it seems to be one of the best. Anyways here are my questions;

    1. Do I have to take all these steroids ? I understand the importance of stacking but damn....I dont want to spend $1200 on a cycle. I just dont have the money to do that, and I dont think most of you guys spend that much on a cycle.

    2. How does this cycle look? What would you change?

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    Oh yeah...Im also planing on training hard every major muscle once a week...plenty of rest. I will be eatin 6 meals a day (maby more) and trying to get in 5000 cal. day (very high metabolism). Other than my cycle I will be supplementing with EAS Creatine, and Twinlab Gainers Fuel I like the taste and the calories.

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    most advocate not ramping up dbol . take 40mg ed for the first four weeks.

    way too much hcg . you don't need to take hcg in the middle and at the end of your cycle. you are also talking about taking massive amounts over several weeks at the end of your cycle. very dangerous bro - you could do serious damage to your gonads. do a search on hcg and read the drug profile in AR.

    this is quoted from the drug profile . . .

    HCG should only be taken for a few weeks. If HCG is taken by male athletes over many weeks and in high dosages, it is possible that the testes will respond poorly to a later HCG intake and a release of the body's own LH. This could result in a permanent inadequate gonadal function.
    Last edited by FedSki; 02-17-2003 at 06:03 AM.

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    hey bro, i think alot of the stuff on that part of the site is a little oout dated, you can throw the winny in, it is optinal, and you could switch the prop for d-bol at 35mg per day for 4 weeks, but i wouldn't run two ala17 on your cycle...i put you on a low prop dose due to it being your first cycle......Madmax

    winny 50mg ed (10-15)
    test 500mg (1-10)
    deca 300 (1-10)
    prop 50 mg eod (1-4)
    clomid post cycle
    nolvadex on hand

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    Hey thanks a lot man. I really thought that cycle was harsh, I mean I wanna get big but I dont wanna be 80% roids. Anyways, thanks for the info....your cycle looks better Max....I`ll prolly stick to that.

    Fedski- thanks for that info...definetly want to keep my gonads. I thought the amount migh be a little much, and now I know better.


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