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    toddy is offline Junior Member
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    winny,clen, anti e

    I am thinking about a simple spring cutter. I had gyno surgery a month
    ago so I don't want any androgens at all. I have been cutting naturally
    for about a month now and want to add a little something. I need to be
    hard and lean for the month of march. I know it sounds stupid but its a long story. I was thinking of hitting winny at 50mg/day for 4 weeks,
    clen 2weeks on/off, and eca on off weeks. I was even thinking of throwing a little bit of femara in there to add some dryness and extra
    hardness. I will be dieting hardcore, will carbs at 100grams or less a day,
    protein around 300grams a day, and hitting cardio 4 days in the morning,
    along with lifting 5 nights a week. My questions are is the femara
    necesary at all and will it help or hurt with winny joint pain. Also do you
    think the winny will be effective at 50mg/day with only clen in the mix with it? Please don't tell me to run anything else with it b/c I am not trying to get into a full cycle. Will it work or not?

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    OK, so it looks like you're interested in loosing fat and not building muscle.

    You've got all the basics there. I'd suggest you try them and see what works well for you.

    How about some T3? If you can get you hands on it, something like below would work well..

    Week 1&2 Clen
    Week 3&4 T3 & Winny
    Week 5&6 ECA
    Start over again.

    Or if you want to go at it more agressively:
    Week 1&2 CLEN & ECA
    Week 3&4 T3,winny, and ECA
    start over.

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    i think t3 would be a little too catabolic considering I am only using
    winny and clen , my carb intake is low, and I am doing lots of cardio.

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    Originally posted by toddy
    i think t3 would be a little too catabolic considering I am only using
    winny and clen, my carb intake is low, and I am doing lots of cardio.
    Ah, but that's why I said to run the T3 and winny at the same time.
    With the winny in your system, you're not gonna loose any muscle mass unless you go dangerously low on caloritic intake.

    I would suggest that you avoid running clen and t3 at the same time.

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    I think winny will be ok on T3, don't run the T3 for a long period. Also you might want to aviod running the clen and T3 at the same time with only winny. I ran T3 and Clen the same time but I was on Fina/Test, and I had no muscle lose.
    Good advice GotGear

    Pain

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    You can run T3 while on winny with no problem if fat loss is your main goal.

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    BTW, make sure you read up on T3 and how to dose it and taper it. It can be dangerous stuff.

    Pain

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