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    Dbol cycle - using milk thistle

    I am considering starting a cycle involving dbol and I was wondering what measures anybody could advise me to take to help prevent serious liver damage. I have heard milk thistle helps but have heard people say tht it should be used before and after a cycle and not during is this true ?

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    I myself have always used milk thistle while on cycle. I have not had any issues. Note; I do not drink at all while on cycle, not even a sip. I recently had a discussion with another member that suggested NAC as in N-Acetyl-Cysteine opposed to milk thistle. Looking over it, it appears to be much superior. You may consider this instead. I will be switching once my bottle is empty.

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    Thanks for the information.

    Also regarding dbol does the times durin the day you take it in relation to when you go to the gym matter. I was planning to take 40mg in total made up of 10mg at 9 am, 10mg at 1pm, 10mg at 5pm and 10mg at 9 pm. However i usually go to the gym around 11am as this is the most convenient time for me to go meaning I've only took 1 tab at this point in the day does that matter?

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    are you running dbol solo? What are you stats? is this your first cycle?

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    I've not started the cycle yet am just considering begining a cycle using dbol sustanon and deca and this would be my first cycle. Sorry if that was not clear above I meant that if I followed the dosage pattern above(advised to me by a friend who has used a similar cycle) then I would have taken 1 tab at the point of 11am when i usually go to the gym as apposed to have took at this point in the day as I have posted above. The course suggested to me would potentially last for 8 weeks involving taking 40mg dbol each day for the first 4 weeks and injecting 1 ml of sust and 1 ml of deca twice a week for eight weeks while taking tamoxefein for the duration.

    Any advice you could give me would be much appreciated, thanks.
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    Dbol is used as a kick starter. 10mg x 4 a day for 6-8 weeks is good. milk thistle or liv-52 is good to take through out. oarls can be ruff on the liver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lil_herc81 View Post
    I myself have always used milk thistle while on cycle. I have not had any issues. Note; I do not drink at all while on cycle, not even a sip. I recently had a discussion with another member that suggested NAC as in N-Acetyl-Cysteine opposed to milk thistle. Looking over it, it appears to be much superior. You may consider this instead. I will be switching once my bottle is empty.
    I take both. NAC is the only oral heavy metal chelator, but it is very slow. As a general rule, every other year, I take for 6 months. I buy the powder, as I do everything, and the one thing about NAC.... it is VERY tangy!

    My last blood panel indicated my liver is in excellent condition. Both NAC and milkthistle are inexpensive.

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    Thanks for the info, with regards to a bulking course like this how many calories would you suggest I should aim to eat each day? I've read several different numbers but I would imagine that would depend in part on the height of the person, and I'm only 5'7 could you offer any advice on this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GREY HULK View Post
    Dbol is used as a kick starter. 10mg x 4 a day for 6-8 weeks is good. milk thistle or liv-52 is good to take through out. oarls can be ruff on the liver.
    6-8 week kick start? Sounds like a little much. 4-5 wks Would be the usual

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    Sorry, I lost track of this thread. I agree with jersey 4-5 weeks. I take 50mg daily for 30 days but this is not my first cycle. If you plan to use dbol IMO- take a lower dosage the sides may be intense. So far dbol is the only thing that gives me sides. You may consider 30mg/day 40 at most. As mentioned orals are bad on the organs so be sure to suppliment like you mentioned. Also I would stay away from alcohol 100% anytime I take orals no booze! just seems a little safer that way. As far as your diet that depends on what you are looking for. taking dbol I am assuming size. If this holds true, eat everything you can that holds good nutritional value. I shoot for 5k calories daily with tons of protein. PROTEIN PROTEIN PROTIEN!!!! If you have more specific questions post stats as asked and we can help narrow things down more.

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