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03-31-2003, 08:57 PM #1
Anyone recall what "did in" Andreas Munzer?
I've heard so many rumors (or, rather, heard them back when this was news) as to what people claim was responsible...everything from DNP to slin to who knows what else. I just remember the guy being bone dry year round...it seemed like he did a contest once a month in stellar condition. Anyone recall what was "specifically responsible", if it's even possible to peg one thing down in that type of situation. NOt trying to alarm people here, but it is something I'd like to know.
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03-31-2003, 09:41 PM #2New Member
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cytadren was mentioned
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03-31-2003, 10:36 PM #3Anabolic Member
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bro
if you do a search on him they have his last cycle online.i just had a copy of it like two months ago becausei was shoing to a guy in the gym.just lookin gogle.it'sone of the forst to pop up
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04-01-2003, 02:02 AM #4Junior Member
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I think it was a matter of what did'nt he do.
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04-01-2003, 08:31 AM #5
Too much of everything.
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04-01-2003, 03:21 PM #6
who was this guy, a pro bb'er???
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04-01-2003, 06:14 PM #7
seems i remember it was cytadren as well.
something about his potassium levels, and his kidneys. but as was mentioned above, he had a lot of different stuff in him, and he stayed on a lot of it year round.
peace IFL79
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04-01-2003, 06:22 PM #8Anabolic Member
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here it is...
: This information was taken from the article about Andreas Munzer in "Der spiegel" (it could be done by a reporter) this are the medicine that the volume to prepare itself for the Arnol Schwarzenegger Classic DOES NOT FOLLOW EAST CYCLE, IS LETHAL!
: 10-0 weeks before the competition the volume daily:
: EPHEDRINA, AN 1, CAPTAGON, ASPIRIN, VALIUM, CLENBUTEROL , HORMONE TIROIDEA.
: 10-6 weeks before the competition daily:
: 2 injections of Testoviron 250mg.
: 1 injection of Paravolan
: 30 tablets of Halotestin
: 30 tablets of Metandienou (Dianavol de Tailandi)
: 20 IE hormone growth
: 20 IE insulin
: 5-3 weeks before the competition daily:
: 3 injections of Masteron
: 2 injections of Parabolan
: 30 tablets of Halotestin
: 50 tablets of Stromba
: 2 injections of Stromba
: 24 IE hormone growth
: 20 IE insulin.
: 2-1 week before the competition daily:
: 2 injections of Masteron
: 2 injections of Stromba
: 40 tablets of Halotestin
: 80 tablets of Stromba
: 24 IE hormone growth
: 20 IE Insulin
: IGF.
: A FEW DAYS BEFORE THE COMPETITION: ALDACTONE, LAXIS.
: Also it took EPO and medicine for the sanguineous pressure, after the long trip from return to Germany he I dehydrate, after landing he it began to drink fluid and with its dehydrated state and very thick blood its liver basically I disintegrate myself.
: First its liver, soon its kidney and later failed its heart, after all this its full stomach of blood and murio. It rejected a sanguineous transfusion.
: My commentaries how could he become that? Remember that all these medicines must happen through the liver and this would damage it. 30 Dianabol , 80 Stromba and 40 Halotestin God Mine! These really toxic drugs with still in small doses and he had a great overdose. If this are more athletes doing, is only time question before somebody dies more. Remember in maintaining the doses small and take care of his feeding.
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04-01-2003, 07:39 PM #9
OMG.....
Pain
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04-01-2003, 08:01 PM #10
who is this guy?
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04-01-2003, 08:05 PM #11
any1 got a pic? id like to see the results of cycling like that
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04-01-2003, 08:36 PM #12
here's a quick one i just dug up....i'll look for another
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04-02-2003, 02:11 PM #13
that guy is insane, looks like he got his results though.
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04-02-2003, 02:36 PM #14
dam he is ripped as fuck
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04-02-2003, 03:52 PM #15Originally posted by Khull_Khuum
dam he is ripped as fuck
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04-02-2003, 04:47 PM #16
What the Fucc......Anybody on that cycle is begging for death....
I mean 30 -40 tabs of Halo a DAY!!!!!!!!!!!! 30 tabs of D-ball a day.... Man this guy is nuts....
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04-02-2003, 05:39 PM #17Originally posted by Rhino58
that guy is insane, looks like he got his results though.
he got results alright...............he isnt insane anymore bro.....hes fuckin dead.
peace IFL79
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05-25-2003, 06:45 PM #18
andreas munzer was the most ripped bodybuilder of all time. too bad it took his life to be known as such.
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05-25-2003, 07:11 PM #19
He was a fantastic bodybuilder, but he did not let his body rest. His cause of death was an abdominal hemorage. It occurred during the night with his girlfriend finding him dead the next morning. As far as to the potential cause, the substances that he took interfered with vital physiological processes to such an extent that his body literally broke down.
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05-25-2003, 07:42 PM #20
Here's a pretty good pic I found...
This guys pretty ripped, but we're still alive. That cycle is nuts.
-moto
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05-25-2003, 07:45 PM #21
I don't know how to post a pic apparently, so here's the link...
http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/5990/munzer.jpg
-moto
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05-25-2003, 07:46 PM #22
Since this thread has been dug up, here's another pic I came across
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05-25-2003, 08:06 PM #23
Arch where did you hear that? I've always heard he basically dropped dead following a return flight to Germany. While his cycle was outrageous that's not what did him in. Munzer died of liver, kidney and heart failure, this was caused by his usage of Epogen. A genetically engineered version of the protein hormone formed by the kidneys that stimulates formation of red blood cells. It is used by performance athletes because it increases the transport of oxygen by the blood, but bodybuilders use it because it helps give the muscles a fuller appearance in contests especially after all the atrocious diets. Epogen also increases the thickness of the blood to promote a super compensation of glycogen in the muscles (to fill out during competition); somewhat like blood doping. Basically it was the deadly combination of being dehydrated from a lengthy flight and super thick blood.
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05-25-2003, 08:21 PM #24
http://www.cyberiron.com/drugs/death.html
this would seem to confirm that version
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05-26-2003, 05:30 AM #25
The most ripped man ever in bb?
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05-26-2003, 03:45 PM #26
Here's one more
JohnnyB
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05-26-2003, 03:49 PM #27
Those delts are fucken MAD looking. I understand it was cytadren as was said before.
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05-26-2003, 04:44 PM #28
OMG!! He looks like a human anatomy chart....seriously, dye his skin red and you're looking at one.
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05-26-2003, 05:52 PM #29
OMG, to much shit !!!!
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05-26-2003, 05:57 PM #30
archangel was right on the money. when he died, muscle media did a big story about it. i am not sure what issue. this is back when mm was a real magazine. in the article they blamed it mostly on halo. it was a pretty good article from what i remember. but i do know that in that article it was reported that his girlfriend found him dead and that a medical report said it was from abdominal hemmorage
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05-26-2003, 09:48 PM #31
Where are you and Arch getting this from? I've always heard and read he died after his flight, never heard anything about his girlfriend finding him. Unfortunately the whole event was exploited by the media which started again the dilemma about the dangers of steroids . The story was covered in Der Spiegel and Bild which titled their story "His Fanatical Wish Was To Be Better Than His Idol Arnold Schwarzenegger." He was in fact born in Graz just like Arnie. All over the place you see "his cycle", but truth is no one but him and some close friends actually knew what he was taking. I've always heard Epogen like I said before and that makes the most sense [From: weights, Number 1215, Tuesday, April 2nd 1996 Brad Kern] "I was talking to someone who knew Andreas and they also said he was taking EPO before his death." EPO is used precontest and coincidentally he was on a flight to germany for a guest appearance.
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05-27-2003, 05:21 AM #32
i only know what i read in the issue of mm and we both know that the media plays just about everything to extremes. this is the only reason that i said arch was right on the money. it was basically what i read. i think mm was the only bb magazine to actually publish that his death was related to gear. i am not 100% percent positive about the mag nor his cod. it is simply what i read.
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05-27-2003, 09:30 AM #33
does that guy even have any skin???????
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05-27-2003, 10:18 AM #34AR-Hall of Famer / Retired
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a good clue is - EPO + Lasix(or any stron diuetic) = death
IMO it isnt the juice that is the problem, it is the diruetics that kill people - you notice that the ones getting hurt are comp BBs - your body just has to have a certain amount of water to process toxins - thats why all the smart fellas look like marshmellows year around untill contest time because those few weeks are the worst on their health
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05-27-2003, 04:31 PM #35
I remeber seeing that guy when I wasin school...didnīt know he had died
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05-27-2003, 05:16 PM #36
I dought the juice was that high. But the EPO along w/ lasix and other things that make your blood thick along with no water, cause his kidney's to shut down then it was chain reaction from there for other organs. He was also on plane flying back to Germany right after show and had no re-hydrated or anything.
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