My Friend Needs Your Help

**Terinox** · 11-26-2001, 09:45 PM

My friend has been lifting with me for about 2 years, and he's basically all natural, he's doing good so far.

He is about 6'1 or 6'2
Weighs about 165/170
Age is 19

For the upcoming summer, he's thought about cutting down, and really getting the 6 pack out. He wants to do 8-10weeks on the Clen and maybe an E/C/A cycle or two. Also, maybe a steroid to just harden up the muscles. He was thinking about Winny, but is not sure.

Any pointers that might help him are appreciated.

Thnx
Terinox

**GenuinePL** · 11-26-2001, 09:51 PM

Cutting down???? What!!!
What about massive bulking up

I'm 6'0 185lbs, and there is not much to cut, but your friends need defenitelly more weight.

**cnyce89** · 11-26-2001, 09:51 PM

8-10 week cycle of clen and eca stack????? umm......

why cut up when hes 6'2" and only weighs 170...
thats pretty skinny for his height.

bulk him up!

**EXCESS** · 11-26-2001, 09:52 PM

Originally posted by Terinox
He is about 6'1 or 6'2
Weighs about 165/170

He wants to cut down? He sounds like a freakin rail already!

**GenuinePL** · 11-26-2001, 09:53 PM

And if you really want to sut down from that then just do more cardio and abs, it worked perfectly for me and it should work for you. All there is, is commitment and will to do it.

**Medicine Man** · 11-26-2001, 09:54 PM

there is no need to cut at that weight, tell him to do some cardio and more ab work if he wants to be thinner, but why would he?
what do you mean by "he is basically all natural?"
MM

**EXCESS** · 11-26-2001, 09:57 PM

and what do you mean by "friend"? Is it you?

**cnyce89** · 11-26-2001, 10:00 PM

yea dont be shy..were all family...for real...is it you??? it hink it is...

dont cut up...no need to...bulk up!!!!!!!!!!!!

**Fast Results** · 11-26-2001, 10:17 PM

Tell your friend he needs to EEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTT

I've seen better stats on a crack addict.

First you or him dont need to juice yet

Wait till you really stop growing. Second,if your gonna do clen /eca then do them one a time for 2 weeks then alternate. It really sounds like he needs to make a strong commitment to his abs!!! JMO

Fast Results

**GenuinePL** · 11-26-2001, 10:25 PM

Awesome advice FR

**arthurb999** · 11-26-2001, 10:30 PM

I'd put some muscle on that frame then try to cut it up.

**EXCESS** · 11-26-2001, 10:32 PM

Originally posted by Fast Results
I've seen better stats on a crack addict.

LMAO!

I agree with the people that have suggested doing it naturally. Abs come from diet, so tell your friend to get motivated.

**Terinox** · 11-27-2001, 08:12 AM

LOL, first off, no it isn't me, it really is my friend.

Maybe I came at it the wrong way, not that he wants to cut down, just really wants the abs to stick out. He does have quite a lot of muscle. He just isn't all that defined if you know what I mean. Natural, well, I mean he's gone on a little bit of everything except steroids basically. When we say "natural" it means no steroids right, but all that other stuff, creatine, glutamine, hmb, etc...doesn't count.

He is a big boy, he does high weights, he has pretty big biceps and all, so basically, it's just the abs. He doesn't have a big gut, but a bit is there. How much would the Clen help out???

Thnx
Terinox

**Fast Results** · 11-27-2001, 09:17 AM

Originally posted by Terinox

He is a big boy, he does high weights, he has pretty big biceps and all, so basically, it's just the abs. He doesn't have a big gut, but a bit is there. How much would the Clen help out???

Thnx
Terinox [/B]

The clen won't do a thing for him..... He needs muscle FIRST!! Sure the clen will help him lose some pounds but he really needs all the weight he can get. He needs to train harder with some commitment. If he watches what he eats then his lil gut will go away. He needs to eat clean: low carbs high protien but at the same time needs to bring cals up for some bulking. works for me...

**Pete235** · 11-27-2001, 09:48 AM

Originally posted by Fast Results
I've seen better stats on a crack addict.

Clever FR....but we can't be flaming newbies. I know this was meant as a joke, but we just have to be careful and be respectful. Lets keep the flames to the people that deserve it...pbnyc, Pappapump, me, john47, Excess and some of the other usual suspects.

**Big Al** · 11-27-2001, 10:26 AM

Word to that. Lets keep the family atmosphere bros.........FR you make me laugh though bro so don't take this as a negative.

**Fast Results** · 11-27-2001, 10:55 AM

but I only wanna......

**Pete235** · 11-27-2001, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by Fast Results
but I only wanna......

C'mon FR.....I need closure on that anecdote

**Fast Results** · 11-27-2001, 11:37 AM

Pete, I really do see better stats on a crack addict

j/k bro...
I didnt mean to flame him. Terinox dont take it the wrong way, we gotta play w/each other once in a while..... I get my share. Welcome bro!!

Fast Results

**GenuinePL** · 11-27-2001, 11:45 AM

You guys crack me up, I love it.

Terinox, just tell your friend to train his abs hard and have a good diet and everything will come together within 2-4months. I know that from my personal experence.
Trust most of the guys on this board (exept some, LOL) they will give you a great advice, they know what they are talking about.

**pureanger** · 11-27-2001, 11:49 AM

without the proper diet you can train abs all you want and never see them. If your friend wants to cut up he can do it naturally through training and diet

**Terinox** · 11-27-2001, 04:20 PM

Hay, FR, it's all good with me. Not to mention, it's not me we're talking about, it's my friend! LOL :P

Thnx for da good advice though, I'll let him know. He does train good though, 2-3 hours, 3 days a week. I guess it's just his diet, and considering he really hasn't worked abs much before, it will obviously take some time.

Thnx.
Terinox