My Summer Cutter

**Tankass** · 03-12-2003, 12:40 PM

This is my Second Prop/Fina/Winny Cycle. 1st was only 6 weeks long. I think I will get much better results on this one. Nolva on hand. Finish it up with standard clomid doses. Let me know what you think...

**Got Gear?** · 03-12-2003, 12:53 PM

Looks good!

Here's my concerns...

Winny for 6 weeks... Pushing it, but do-able. Keep an eye out for problems.

Why arn't you running T3? T3 is way more potent than clen /ECA and while running it on cycle you're not gonna have to worry about it's catabolic properties. Honestly I'd run all 3... Clen, ECA, & T3. It's fairly cheap too!

**Tankass** · 03-12-2003, 12:55 PM

T3 scares me. I hear some bad things about it... but I will look into it... As far as winny for 6 weeks I did it last time with no problems but this time ill be on ALA, Milk Thistle and Cranberry extract so it will be even less likly for anything to happen. Thanks for your input bro

**Got Gear?** · 03-12-2003, 12:58 PM

T3 is no more scary than Steroids .

It's a hormone and you're upping the natural levels in your body. Exactly the same as steroids.

Just keep it to below 150mcg and you'll be fine. I'm on it right now.. I even lik it better than clen cause no shakes!

DNP .. now that shit is scary!!

**Tankass** · 03-12-2003, 01:00 PM

Originally posted by Got Gear?
DNP.. now that shit is scary!!

Yea thats some Crazy Shit...

**painintheazz** · 03-12-2003, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by Got Gear?
T3 is no more scary than Steroids .

It's a hormone and you're upping the natural levels in your body. Exactly the same as steroids.

Just keep it to below 150mcg and you'll be fine. I'm on it right now.. I even lik it better than clen cause no shakes!

DNP.. now that shit is scary!!

Agreed, if you are experiance with Clen/ECA take the jump to T3, I don't think it is as bad as they make it out to be.

Pain

**Got Gear?** · 03-12-2003, 01:02 PM

Originally posted by Tankass

Yea thats some Crazy Shit...

Yup.. but seriously bro.. try the T3, guaranteed you'll like it.
If you're worried, keep the dose low. It's cheap enough to experiment with.

**Tankass** · 03-12-2003, 01:03 PM

Originally posted by Got Gear?

Yup.. but seriously bro.. try the T3, guaranteed you'll like it.
If you're worried, keep the dose low. It's cheap enough to experiment with.

How would I work it into this cycle?

**palme** · 03-12-2003, 01:06 PM

I guess you can change your name to pinhead after that cycle bro, damn thats alot of injections

**Tankass** · 03-12-2003, 01:07 PM

Originally posted by palme
I guess you can change your name to pinhead after that cycle bro, damn thats alot of injections

Haha I love shots.. I smell rubbing alcohol and get all excited. I don't know I'm sure there are a few other people out there like me

**Got Gear?** · 03-12-2003, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by Tankass

How would I work it into this cycle?

You're doing 2 weeks clen , 2 weeks ECA correct?
I'd run the T3 something like:
Weeks 1-3, weeks 7-10.

The doseage is up to you and how well you're doing with the results. Since you're going to be running something else at the same time, I wouldn't go over 100mcg/day tho.

Ramp the doseage up and down over a few days. For example if I wanted to take 100mcg and wanted to take the T3 for 3 weeks I'd run it something like
Day 1 - 50mcg
Day 2 - 50mcg
Day 3 - 75mcg
Day 4 - 75mcg
Day 5 - 75mcg
Day 6 to 15 - 100mcg
Day 17 - 75mcg
Day 18 - 50mcg
Day 19 - 50mcg
Day 20 - 25mcg
Day 21 - 25mcg

**painintheazz** · 03-12-2003, 01:21 PM

Got gears cycle looks pretty good. I would spend less time tappering up and more time tappering down. Although next cycle I am not going to tapper down much at all and see how bad it shuts me down if any. All in the name of science. Also I would run it for longer, I did a little over 6 weeks and I am fine now.

Pain

**Tankass** · 03-12-2003, 01:22 PM

ohhhh I like that

I need to see if my guy carries it though... Thanks Bro I think im gonna add it in right now...

**Got Gear?** · 03-12-2003, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by Tankass
ohhhh I like that I need to see if my guy carries it though... Thanks Bro I think im gonna add it in right now...

Cool! You won't regret it!

**painintheazz** · 03-12-2003, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by Tankass
ohhhh I like that I need to see if my guy carries it though... Thanks Bro I think im gonna add it in right now...

Good to hear, just as with everything else use it reponsibly and you will be safe. Make sure you research it a little more, cough cough I just posted a tread about T3 and T4.... To search for T3 type T3* in the search box and it will get you by the 3 letter min thing.

Pain

**Madmax** · 03-12-2003, 02:45 PM

bro, if you run var, youll be better off than you would if you ran winny....id save the eca and clen till after your cycle bro, i wouldnt run t3 and dnp unless you do alot of research.... t3 is the lesser of the two evil i think...youll end up spending 300 on the winny probobally, why not just spend the extra 200 and buy var and run it the last 8 weeks of your ten week cycle...i think this will do you better bro....Madmax..

tren 75mg ed (1-10)
prop 100mg ed (1-10)
var 40 or 50mg ed (2-8)
clen and eca 2 on 2 off when you start your clomid.....

**painintheazz** · 03-12-2003, 02:53 PM

MadMax why do you want to wait for the clen and ECA? I would put them in from the beginning. This is a cutting cycle wouldn't you want the added benefits from the metabolism boost caused by them?

Pain

**Madmax** · 03-12-2003, 03:06 PM

bro i know its a cutting cycle.....i suggested that because, the var, fina and prop are going to already shred him up, (with a good diet of course)then at the end if he adds clen it will decreases the rate at which protein is reduced in the muscle cell, thus causing your muscle cells to enlarge..that is the reason many lifters take it at the end....it helps maintain your gains...

i know alot of people use it in conjunction with other gear, but since its a summer cutting cycle he might be better off running it at the end that way he will be running 18 weeks, almost the entire summer..if he just ran the clen for 8 weeks during his cycle when he comes off, hes going to have a harder time staying lean and trying to maintain his gains.....

hope this clarifies why i choose to run it at the end....Madmax..

**painintheazz** · 03-12-2003, 03:13 PM

Sounds reasonable.

Pain

**Madmax** · 03-12-2003, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by painintheazz
Sounds reasonable.

Pain

stop bieng such a pain in my ass bro....

....j/k..Madmax...

**Magicz** · 03-12-2003, 03:23 PM

i agree with madmax

**painintheazz** · 03-12-2003, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by Madmax

stop bieng such a pain in my ass bro........j/k..Madmax...

I am not going to let you get by being a VET that easy.

Pain

**Tankass** · 03-12-2003, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by Madmax
bro, if you run var, youll be better off than you would if you ran winny....id save the eca and clen till after your cycle bro, i wouldnt run t3 and dnp unless you do alot of research.... t3 is the lesser of the two evil i think...youll end up spending 300 on the winny probobally, why not just spend the extra 200 and buy var and run it the last 8 weeks of your ten week cycle...i think this will do you better bro....Madmax..

tren 75mg ed (1-10)
prop 100mg ed (1-10)
var 40 or 50mg ed (2-8)
clen and eca 2 on 2 off when you start your clomid.....

I wish I could Run var but its so expensive. I am only runnin the Winny cuz i can get QV Stan50 at $90 a vial and they are 20ml. So with this situation what would you recommend I do?

**nj_** · 03-12-2003, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by Tankass

I wish I could Run var but its so expensive. I am only runnin the Winny cuz i can get QV Stan50 at $90 a vial and they are 20ml. So with this situation what would you recommend I do?

I'd run it the same way you had set up before but I agree with Madmax about moving the clen /ECA to when you start clomid rather than during your cycle.

**Madmax** · 03-12-2003, 04:27 PM

ya bro, the way you had it other than the clen looked good, i just thought var would be a better choice, but its still a good cycle bro..run it the way you originally planned bro..good luck..Madmax.....

**painintheazz** · 03-12-2003, 04:27 PM

I still like my T3/Clen /ECA with the cycle, and Clen/ECA continued after the cycle if necessary. But everyone is different.

Pain

**Madmax** · 03-12-2003, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by painintheazz
I still like my T3/Clen /ECA with the cycle, and Clen/ECA continued after the cycle if necessary. But everyone is different.

Pain

hey bro, if he was to run clen during his cycle, he should not run it after his cycle...10 weeks on clen is more than enough...even with cycling 2 on and 2 off...any longer is jepordizing your health....Madmax....

**painintheazz** · 03-12-2003, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by Madmax

hey bro, if he was to run clen during his cycle, he should not run it after his cycle...10 weeks on clen is more than enough...even with cycling 2 on and 2 off...any longer is jepordizing your health....Madmax....

True, any CNS will do that. ECA too.