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    A mystery to me

    A have a problem that is probably pretty different than what usually gets brought up on here. Long story short, I am gyno prone and got gyno in the past from dbol that was labeled as anavar . I attempted a letro reversal with no success, I actually worsened my gyno with the estrogen rebound from the Letro.

    Fast forward a few months and I get my gyno surgery done. Things are looking ok but I can tell that the surgeon didnt completely remove everything.... whatever..

    Recently finished a 1 month cycle of S-4. Went ok, didnt feel suppressed at all. I began to carry out my planned PCT: Tamox 40/40/20/20 and Torem 90/60/30/30

    Two weeks into taking those doses I began to get the telltale symptoms.. Burning, tender nips, swelling... WTF?

    My question is.. Is it possible that tamox doesnt actually block the receptors in my body?? I swear it feels like it aggravates my gyno. Every time I have used tamox I get no results...

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    All oral only cycles... m1t, dbol(which gave me gyno), winstrol

    I had spent the last 8 months on this site reading and reading and reading and preparing for my upcoming cycle of test E. Looks like thats getting put on hold until i figure my shit out.

    Got my blood work done last tues after I stopped taken my tamox and torem..


    ALT A 58 <50 U/L

    AST A 49 <30 U/L

    FSH 4.0 <10.0 IU/L

    Luteinizing Hormone (LH) 3.5 <10.0 IU/L

    Estradiol 144 <150 pmol/L

    Free Testosterone 33.1 24-95 pmol/L

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    why dont you use an AI like Arimidex throughout the cycle

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    If you have done so much reading on this site, then you should know to TAKE AN AI DURING AND AFTER YOUR CYCLE, especially someone thats prone to sides!

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    Take care of your gyno first.

    Make sure your next aromatising cycle includes Arimidex 0.5 EOD.

    Also make sure you run a solid PCT that consists of both Clomid and Nolvadex . Extend Nolvadex 20 mg ED to the 6th week.

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    Thanks for the flames, but that doesn't address the fact that tamox simply does not work for me. It aggravates things for me. I am currently running aromasin 25mg ed until my nips stop hurting.

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    good for you
    if its bad for you then leave it, people react differently to different stuff

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    Some people run Letrozole throughtout there whole cycle. Its just how your body reacts to medication.

    Some people can take .25mg Letro and be blown away by the sides, others (like myself) can take up to 5mgs with no sides, before reduction of gyno.

    You must taper your Letro or any other AI for that matter, you cannot simply just drop it.

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    I totally did taper the letro down slowlllly. And came off with nolva. My question is..is tamox a compound that simply does not work for me?

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    Its possible. Tamox does nothing to gyno for me....maybe the same w you.

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    Do u still use it for pct?

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    Bump for the vets opinion on my BW

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