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    What is a good PCT or DBOl?

    Hey everyone im just wondering what is a good pct after a dbol cycle?
    thanks for the responses

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    what are your stats?
    You shouldnt be running a dbol only cycle,
    Have you done any research?

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    I am 19 and 20 in November
    I am about 180cm
    Prior to my consistent training about 8 months ago i was between 68kg and 70kg, now since than i am between 78kg and 80kg. For some reason i stopped gaining weight for about 3 months :S
    Body Fat i got no clue.

    I no that the recommended age is around 25 i read the newbie pack lol.....but honestly its a major struggle for me to mass up. I eat alot and i eat healthy with heaps of protein in my diet i need that extra boost personally.....
    Any information in regards to what i can do best or better with a dbol cycle and pct will be a great help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by musclekid88 View Post
    I am 19 and 20 in November
    I am about 180cm
    Prior to my consistent training about 8 months ago i was between 68kg and 70kg, now since than i am between 78kg and 80kg. For some reason i stopped gaining weight for about 3 months :S
    Body Fat i got no clue.

    I no that the recommended age is around 25 i read the newbie pack lol.....but honestly its a major struggle for me to mass up. I eat alot and i eat healthy with heaps of protein in my diet i need that extra boost personally.....
    Any information in regards to what i can do best or better with a dbol cycle and pct will be a great help.
    So much wrong:

    1) Way to young to be cycling, you need Foodosterone, and a better diet. If you can't gain weight naturally, you will not keep any weight you gain after taking steroids . Post your diet in the diet section of this forum and you will see how poorly your eating. Saying I'm eating heaps of food and protein is not enough. Dieting is broken down into 3 components : (A) - When you Eat, (B) What you Eat, (C) How often you Eat. I gaurentee your not doing atleast 2 of the 3 properly.

    2) Your body is still developing on several levels. First off, tendons and ligaments (the tissues that connect muscle to bone and bone to bone) develop much slower in comparison to muscles. By adding so much mass so quickly you put strain on your body and substantially increase risk of injury. Secondly, your endocrine system (responsible for hormonal growth and regulation) is still developing. Shutting down your system puts you at risk of permanent long term damage. I don't know, nor quite frankly want to know how sexually experiened you are, but try explaining to your partner/future partner why you have to take Viagra at 22 years old.

    3) A dbol -only cycle is stupid, for lack of a better word. Reading the educational stickies will enlighten you as to why it is.

    4) You have barely been training. You need several years of experienced, dedicated training to even consider steroids. You may not even be doing a lot of your execises correctly. Hell, it took me a month to realize I was doing deadlift poorly and my old form would eventualy give me back problems.

    5) Your still a lightweight, and you have no clue what your bodyfat is. Your bodyfat helps shape your entire diet, so given you don't know what it is, I can only assume you aren't eating properly.


    Alll in all, there is no reason for steroids to even be a part of your vocabulary. You have a lot of training, dieting transformation, and research to do.

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    AGE
    In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

    Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.

    Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.



    TRAINING
    You need a few years of hard training under your belt before even considering taking any kind of anabolic support, people who jump on a cycle to soon without having some quality years under their belt usually results in injuries, it takes time to develop your connective tissue, tendons and nervous system to heavy overload training. Slowly getting your own system use to these kinds of extreme's will only help in muscle growth later on when you do decide to start taking AAS.

    Build a solid foundation for muscle tissue to grow and maintaining and development will be far greater than without it. Many younger guys will start cycling before they have reached their genetic potential which is crazy when a good solid diet and training program will be far beneficial and productive to muscle building.

    Workouts should be mainly focused on basic movements with a priority of over loading the muscle each and ever time you train, increasing your strength and ability to lift in proper form will help with building the foundation for future development


    DIET
    A lot of younger bodybuilders don't know how to eat. Researching and understanding how your own body responds will help you get to your natural limit, the right food at the right time and a full understanding of proteins,carbs, and fats will only help you succeed in achieving your natural goals. Keeping a diet diary will also help you understand the importance of macro, nutrients, calories and should help you see in which areas you could be going wrong in adding lean muscle tissue.

    No matter how much anabolic support you have it will be worthless without proper nutrition, food will help build and maintain your valued muscle weather its natural, cycling or in PCT. Adjusting your food intake and consuming muscle building foods coupled with a solid training program will help you achieve your natural limit and foundation before you start AAS use.

    This area is a huge problem with the younger guys and I can't express enough how important diet/food is when first starting out, post and pre training nutrition are very important and understanding how to load and feed the body will help push growth and create a very natural anabolic environment.

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    Muahahaha, sort-of beat you to it Marcus .

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    To the op, get yourself down to the diet forum and post your full daily diet, lets make a start there and we can get you to where you want to be...
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    Thanks marcus really appreciate the help I will jump on to the diet forum later on tonight after work and post my eating habits. And than go from there

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    Quote Originally Posted by musclekid88 View Post
    Thanks marcus really appreciate the help I will jump on to the diet forum later on tonight after work and post my eating habits. And than go from there
    Good decision bro best of luck and you will be amazed with the diet advice you get to put your body in an anabolic state.

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    Where abouts should I post it, just anywhere in the diet section?

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    Quote Originally Posted by musclekid88 View Post
    Where abouts should I post it, just anywhere in the diet section?
    start a new thread in the diet section, post you times you eat, the macros of each meal and be as spcific as possible

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    Marcus and i thought i was big..

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