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    Arrow My first cycle. Critique please.

    I have been a member on here for about a year now, and have done research at least 4-5 days a week. Since it is my first cylce and I dont want anything crazy, I think I am going to run this:

    Enanthate 250mg/week weeks 1-8
    Dbol 20mg/day weeks 1-4
    Clomid 50mg/day weeks 9-11

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    Well, like you I am doing a low dosage cycle of primoteston (test ethanthate) 250mg and EQ 200mg a week.

    Follow this link in regards to low dosage cycles. It is EXTREMELY HELPFUL. as I'm sure you know, the guys on this board are not only helpful, they know there shit!!!!!

    http://anabolicreview.com/vbulletin/...threadid=46649
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    Re: My first cycle. Critique please.

    Originally posted by JDawg1536

    Enanthate 250mg/week weeks 1-8
    Dbol 20mg/day weeks 1-4
    Clomid 50mg/day weeks 9-11

    this cycle looks ok, but i'd do a few things differently......

    some will disagree, but i would bump the enan to at least 400mg/week, preferably 500. at 250, youre not running much more than what your natural levels are anyways. some have posted that they've gotten great results from250/week, but i have a feeling they are the exception, not the rule.
    i also think the dbol dosage is too low. 30mg ed weeks 1-4 would be better.
    when you run your clomid, start it 2 weeks after your last shot of enanthate. if you start it a week after your last shot, the 1st week or 10 days will be wasted.

    good luck, and have a great cycle.

    peace bb79

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    I agree with bb79 wait 2 weeks for clomid. I think your cycle is good to go. If you did decide to bump it up, you could go 250mg every 5 days, that will give you 350mg a week.

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    Run the cycle for 10 weeks and wait 2 weeks after the test to do the clomid. Nice cycle, good doses.

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    How much do you weigh? Cycle looks okay if your under 180lbs. If more, I'd bump up the test, and might as well go 10 weeks because 1 or 2 bottles should finish 10 weeks exactly unless it's underfilled.

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    I am a little bit under 180, so I shouldnt need very high doses. I should have mentioned that the first time, my bad. I do agree, ten weeks would be better and since I am not real big, should I or should I not bump up Dbol to 30mg/day? so what about this-

    Enanthate 250mg/week weeks 1-10
    Dbol 20 or 30mg/day? weeks 1-4
    Clomid 50 mg/day weeks 12-14

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    Originally posted by JDawg1536
    I am a little bit under 180, so I shouldnt need very high doses. I should have mentioned that the first time, my bad. I do agree, ten weeks would be better and since I am not real big, should I or should I not bump up Dbol to 30mg/day? so what about this-

    Enanthate 250mg/week weeks 1-10
    Dbol 20 or 30mg/day? weeks 1-4
    Clomid 50 mg/day weeks 12-14
    A friend of mine do a similar cycle for 8 weeks gained 17lbs kept it all, but in hind site he wishes he would of used enan or cyp.

    So your good to go

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    hey bro,
    youve got the timing of the clomid down, but not the dosage.......unless youre figuring that with the low doses you need less, and this is a mistake. shutdown is shutdown, and you'll need a standard dose to bring the natural levels back.

    day 1-300mg
    days 2-11 100mg
    days 12-21 50mg

    peace bb79

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    youve got the timing of the clomid down, but not the dosage.......unless youre figuring that with the low doses you need less, and this is a mistake. shutdown is shutdown, and you'll need a standard dose to bring the natural levels back.
    thats exactly what i was figuring. is it safe to run that much clomid in one day? 300mg sounds like a lot. also, do u think im gonna need any more than clomid? I am running low to minimize sides and see how I react to this stuff. also , need more input on dbol dosage please. Thanks for all your help so far.

    new cycle-

    Enanthate 250mg/week weeks 1-10
    Dbol 20 or 30mg/day? weeks 1-4
    ?Clomid 300mg? day 1, 100mg days 2-11, 50mg days 12-21?

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    Any thoughts on dbol dosage? Also, how do you post a quote so it says "Origionally Posted By ........."?

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    Your dbol dosage is ok. If you wanted to you could jump to 30mg per day, but what you are planning on doing is fine.

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    Originally posted by JDawg1536
    Any thoughts on dbol dosage? Also, how do you post a quote so it says "Origionally Posted By ........."?
    In the right hand bottum corner there's a button that says "quote" push it.

    On the d-bol, I'd say drop it or keep it where it's at.

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    Cypoinate 250mg/week weeks 1-10
    Dbol 25mg/day weeks 1-4
    Clomid week 12-300mg day 1, 100mg days 2-11, 50mg days 12-21?


    How does this look?

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    Save the d-bol for another cycle.

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    Originally posted by JohnnyB
    Save the d-bol for another cycle.

    JohnnyB

    Thanks for the help on using the "quote" button. But why save the dbol ?


    If you really think i shouldnt run dbol, what about bridging the test?
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    or what else do you think i should run the test with?

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    just my two cents....bump the test to at least 350 a week..i did a cycle with 250 and 75mg tren every day for 8 weeks....though i was extremely happy with the results i know if i used more test i could have gotten more out of the cycle.....
    If it was me, i'd add in some winny from weeks 6-11 to solidify gains...it's short acting so you can still follow the same clomid protocol. If i was doing the cycle with low doses i'd go with
    Test E 350-400mgs week 1-10
    Dbol 30-35mg ED week 1-4
    Winny 50mg ED week 6-11
    Clomid starting week 12 at 300/100/50 dosing

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    johnyy b, r u there? anybody?

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    Originally posted by JDawg1536
    Cypoinate 250mg/week weeks 1-10
    Dbol 25mg/day weeks 1-4
    Clomid week 12-300mg day 1, 100mg days 2-11, 50mg days 12-21?


    How does this look?


    Hey bro,
    I'm going to agree w/those that said to bump the test up a bit. I think you *might* see gains w/250 a week, but maybe not. I'm definitely one who agrees that one can gain on lower dosages, but I think 250 a week might not get you any gains. If that were the case, then $$ and 10 weeks has been kinda wasted. That's why I recommend bumping the test up a bit just to be sure.


    Cyp: 250mg/every 5 days weeks 1-10 (this is only what? 15 amps or so)
    Dbol: 25mg/day weeks 1-4
    Clomid week 12-300mg day 1, 100mg days 2-11, 50mg days 12-21

    Platinum

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    I think your first cycle, should be simple. Test only is the simplest, but if you'd like to add d-bol at 20mg, it wouldn't be a problem. What ever you decide, out of the 2, thier not over kill.

    JohnnyB

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