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    Cycle HELP NEEDED from Experienced Gear Heads Please.

    STATS; 5 10" 249 lbs 38 yr old . Been lifting 23 years on and off. 3 rd cycle yet 1st one in 6 years.
    18% BF ( I know high...diet diet diet ) I'm built for Power.


    I am seeking some advise on the last 6 weeks of this 16 week cycle.
    Im in going into week 11
    Week 1-10 750 mg Test E, 400 mg Tren , 600 mgs Eq. Weekly
    Week 11-16 500 mg Test E, 335 mg Masteron , 750mg HCG . Weekly

    Continue HCG @ 500mg weekly.
    PCT Beginning 14 days after last injection of Test E:

    Week 1-6 Tamoxifen @ 40/20/20/20/20/20 mg ED
    Week 1-6 Torem @ 120/120/60/60/60/60 OR Clomid @ 50/50/25/25/25/25
    Week 1-6 HCG continued 500 mg week.

    So , 3 questions ;
    1. How's the above last 6 weeks look ? 1st have produced Good muscle & strength.
    2. I want to now include T3 from week 11- 24 ( end of PCT ) at what dose ?
    3. I also have Clen , I assuming do not do both Clen & T3 together? Correct? Or which is better for fat lose ? If I run the Clen , dose and length ?

    Thanks guys I'm sure this will take a few minutes to go over and respond to correctly .
    I appreciate your time!
    Last edited by Donjuice; 07-08-2011 at 01:28 AM.

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    What are your goals, what are you trying to get out of this cycle?
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    Hitting my goals thus far . Dropped some fat added some good muscle.
    Now as the questions suggest I seek to keep my gains while losing some more fat.
    Then do it all over again intill I'm 230 lbs at 12-14% BF which I think is realistic for me by Jan 1st.
    I'm looking at this as a life change that obviously will take a length of time and commitment .
    I started last July 1st as a super fatty 315lbs with 35% BF .
    I'm now very athletic and strong like Bull! Haha.
    So whats your experienced opinion I my original post ?
    Thank you.

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    I think that you can hit your goals without the gear.... no problem at all!

    You would be using AAS' for the sake of it without really requiring them.

    You will not loose too much LBM untill you get down to around and below 10%


    My advise would be to keep doing what you are doing, get your diet checked, get your cardio checked, get your training checked and hit your goals without the use of AAS'

    Once you hit your goals you could consider running a basic cycle to add some LBM while reducing cardio and increasing calories


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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjuice View Post
    STATS; 5 10" 249 lbs 38 yr old . Been lifting 23 years on and off. 3 rd cycle yet 1st one in 6 years.
    18% BF ( I know high...diet diet diet ) I'm built for Power.


    I am seeking some advise on the last 6 weeks of this 16 week cycle.
    Im in going into week 11
    Week 1-10 750 mg Test E, 400 mg Tren , 600 mgs Eq. Weekly
    Week 11-16 500 mg Test E, 335 mg Masteron , 750mg HCG . Weekly HCG if needed. 335 Mast?

    Continue HCG @ 500mg weekly.Stop HCG
    PCT Beginning 14 days after last injection of Test E:

    Week 1-6 Tamoxifen @ 40/20/20/20/20/20 mg ED
    Week 1-6 Torem @ 120/120/60/60/60/60 OR Clomid @ 50/50/25/25/25/25 Eithers fine but 6 weeks? 4 or 5 should be fine.
    Week 1-6 HCG continued 500 mg week. No HCG during PCT

    So , 3 questions ;
    1. How's the above last 6 weeks look ? 1st have produced Good muscle & strength.Fine
    2. I want to now include T3 from week 11- 24 ( end of PCT ) at what dose ?
    3. I also have Clen , I assuming do not do both Clen & T3 together? Correct? Or which is better for fat lose ? If I run the Clen , dose and length ?Wait for others to chime in on this one. I don't much care for either.

    Thanks guys I'm sure this will take a few minutes to go over and respond to correctly .
    I appreciate your time!
    I know from experience as we get older EVERYTHING gets harder and harder to do. And that's if we're lucky and don't suffer an injury. You've done good thus far. Keep up the good work and good luck!!

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    Thank you to you both! Still need a little input now on the T3 & Clen question . Anyone ?

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    Gear heads? Really?

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    Would " Anabolicly Gifted " be more politically correct for you ?
    Juice monsters
    Juice heads
    Riod freaks
    Come on me we all know the slang whether ugly or scienctifically worded for how the synthetic oils are enhancing you .... It is what it is . If you use, your GEARED out. !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjuice View Post
    Would " Anabolicly Gifted " be more politically correct for you ?
    Juice monsters
    Juice heads
    Riod freaks
    Come on me we all know the slang whether ugly or scienctifically worded for how the synthetic oils are enhancing you .... It is what it is . If you use, your GEARED out. !!
    I don't know about you, but if someone who wasn't a joking friend called me a gear head we'd have serious issues. It just sounds derogatory and stupid (implying that you have steroids for brains). **** that.

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    Well to each there own. I call it how it is. Wasn't looking to disturb anybody .

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    Don't mind Bonaparte, he's short.
    Being that it's your first cycle in 6 years, I wouldn't think you would need to run the test so high and you could probably get away without the tren , Trash the EQ if you're only running it for 10wks.
    You got the dosing backwards. If you're going to run test at 750 I would do it at week 10 and 500 up until then not the other way around.
    I'm with base on this one, I would try to cut closer to your goal before starting a cycle. If anything run a few cycles of clen to help cut some fat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pac Man;5688***
    Don't mind Bonaparte, he's short.
    Being that it's your first cycle in 6 years, I wouldn't think you would need to run the test so high and you could probably get away without the tren , Trash the EQ if you're only running it for 10wks.
    You got the dosing backwards. If you're going to run test at 750 I would do it at week 10 and 500 up until then not the other way around.
    I'm with base on this one, I would try to cut closer to your goal before starting a cycle. If anything run a few cycles of clen to help cut some fat.
    I'm assuming that was a Napoleon joke?
    I'm 5'10".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    I'm assuming that was a Napoleon joke?
    I'm 5'10".
    lol..I've read enough of your threads to know your very open spoken and to the point. Lots of guys don't know how to take it. It's a good trait.

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    That's to me?? Or Anabolicly Gifted , Oil enhanced, Chemically engineered , Bonaparte ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    I'm assuming that was a Napoleon joke?
    I'm 5'10".
    Yup
    You know I love you lil guy, come give me a hug.

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