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    Taking Anavar only on Workout Day

    This may cause some flames - no big deal. Im going to post about it anyways because in my opinion its ****ing cool.

    In summary: for some reason I am able to take Anavar only on workout days and reap all the benefits, without any of the negatives.

    My body reacts to things 2, 3, 4x as much as other people. For some reason I take Anavar, and feel it within a few hours. ESPECIALLY when i take days off. I dont know if its a receptor sensitivity thing or what, but I respond to this shit extremely fast, and very strong. I see guys saying its bullshit, no possible way you notice anything until at least a week or two in. They say its just the placebo effect. But on day 1, I was pushing the entire rack after not having worked out in months. I was weak as **** the day before. 3-4 hours after taking it and a half packet of Androgel , I felt this rush of vitality, and even fighting off an erection. Killed it at the gym that day. Obviously the 2nd time was less noticeable but still effective.

    That's how Anavar affects *me*. Maybe not anyone else.

    So I seem to be able to take this shit the morning of my workout and use it as a "pre workout supplement" almost. I instantly feel stronger and have these incredible workouts. Strength and stamina, whereas I've been struggling to do anything at all the last few months.

    On days off? I intentionally don't take it. The Anavar anxiety goes away. The anavar insomnia disappears and I get outstanding sleep. And my liver gets a break from the unnecessary doses. I only take 25mg of the stuff. With a 9 hour half life its out of my system in 24 hours.

    I guess I just love this shit because to me - I want to take as little as possible (for safety reasons). If I can create for myself outstanding workouts by only popping 25mg, and only on gym days, Im drastically cutting the dose and the strain it might put on my liver, etc. It just seems too good to be true, but I've been testing it for 2 weeks now, and its working like a charm.

    I'm pretty excited about this because theoretically? I could do this for much longer than just 6 weeks. Most guys are doing 80mg daily for 6 weeks. Well shit - what if you're only doing 25mg and only 3 times a week? Seems like you could enjoy the stuff indefinitely. Super low danger. Super low dose. Yet still, somehow awesome results, gains, and progress that i have NEVER seen without it.

    Thoughts?

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    You have to take it everyday.

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    So have you got BW done pre and present (when using Var) to see what's really going on?

    Total Test and lipids mainly?

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    you are wasting time and money...

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    sounds more like you were sold some cheap ephedrine claiming it was var. See this a lot cause var is so expensive and unsuspecting kids who get the energy rush from taking it are so excited about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knockout_Power View Post
    sounds more like you were sold some cheap ephedrine claiming it was var. See this a lot cause var is so expensive and unsuspecting kids who get the energy rush from taking it are so excited about it.
    yeah, come to think of it, there have been afew posts claiming a buzz off anavar ......

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    I am also super sensitive to anything not natural. I could "feel" Var after 3 or 4 days (strength building and a certain taste in my mouth). I could "feel" H-drol after 2 or 3 days (mainly blood pressure elevated). I like the ephedrine hypothesis. Try some ephedrine and see if you get same affect...

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    And with all due respect to everyone who replied above, you're all incorrect. Sorry.

    Anavar - 100% legit - provided by WELL KNOWN source who has given same shit to 10+ guys in my gym. Bodybuilders I know firsthand. Hulks. You can all tell them they had fake gear if you like. Make sure you come to the gym in person and tell them they're on Ephedra. Let me know time and date so I can bring a video camera.

    Keep in mind - all of you - everyone reacts to things differently. Its ridiculously ignorant for anyone to comment on someone else's experience with a drug. That reflects a total lack of education on your part.

    * Some guys die if they take Viagra. Think about it.
    * I take 1/4 dose viagra and have an erection "on call" for 2 days. Everyone else it wears off in 4 hours. At full dose.
    * The common antibiotic Erythromycin can cause cardiac arrest in certain people. Should we tell them it wasnt antibiotics but cyanide?

    Ever hear of "post marketing side effects list" ? Its well known in the medical industry. Even after they've created the "official" side effects list for a drug, the FDA requires that a post marketing list be kept. Guess what? You've got your main list, then you sell the stuff to millions of people and 30 new things get reported, and confirmed. Frequent reports are required to be placed on the official list after awhile. Side effects / results list always changes because of this. Common knowledge.

    Basic biology knowledge, and basic understanding of drugs in living systems should discourage such comments. Hypersensitivity to meds is one of the most common things on earth. Shocked nobody's heard of it. That's why some people only need X dose while others need more.

    Anyways ... Biology 101 class dismissed.

    I dont get a "buzz" from Anavar. I get a strength and stamina in the gym. There is no rush. Its a DHT derivative and mixed with Androgel I see no reason why you wouldn't be feeling a little horny 5 hours later. I know what stimulants feel like. In fact im an expert. Adderall. Ecstasy. .... This is no stimulant. Its a hormone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CraigWatts View Post
    And with all due respect to everyone who replied above, you're all incorrect. Sorry.

    Anavar - 100% legit - provided by WELL KNOWN source who has given same shit to 10+ guys in my gym. Bodybuilders I know firsthand. Hulks. You can all tell them they had fake gear if you like. Make sure you come to the gym in person and tell them they're on Ephedra. Let me know time and date so I can bring a video camera.

    Keep in mind - all of you - everyone reacts to things differently. Its ridiculously ignorant for anyone to comment on someone else's experience with a drug. That reflects a total lack of education on your part.

    * Some guys die if they take Viagra. Think about it.
    * I take 1/4 dose viagra and have an erection "on call" for 2 days. Everyone else it wears off in 4 hours. At full dose.
    * The common antibiotic Erythromycin can cause cardiac arrest in certain people. Should we tell them it wasnt antibiotics but cyanide?

    Ever hear of "post marketing side effects list" ? Its well known in the medical industry. Even after they've created the "official" side effects list for a drug, the FDA requires that a post marketing list be kept. Guess what? You've got your main list, then you sell the stuff to millions of people and 30 new things get reported, and confirmed. Frequent reports are required to be placed on the official list after awhile. Side effects / results list always changes because of this. Common knowledge.

    Basic biology knowledge, and basic understanding of drugs in living systems should discourage such comments. Hypersensitivity to meds is one of the most common things on earth. Shocked nobody's heard of it. That's why some people only need X dose while others need more.

    Anyways ... Biology 101 class dismissed.

    I dont get a "buzz" from Anavar. I get a strength and stamina in the gym. There is no rush. Its a DHT derivative and mixed with Androgel I see no reason why you wouldn't be feeling a little horny 5 hours later. I know what stimulants feel like. In fact im an expert. Adderall. Ecstasy. .... This is no stimulant. Its a hormone.
    what are you drivelling on about? srsly?

    you're clueless, absolutely clueless. you come on here asking for advice and then post taht everyone is wrong. idiot.

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    OP, you asked at the end of your post for thoughts and that's exactly what you got, then you turned the post to a flame fest??

    Pharmacology 101 - look up in a pharmacolgy book ED50, ED95, LD50, drugs are generally dosed at what is the effective dose for 50% of the population, it's usually a median so 25% need less and 25% need more. I guess you are in the 25% that need less to obtain the effective dose.

    Usually the ED50 of desired effect and adverse effects go hand in hand. Meaning that if you need a lower doseage to get the desired effects you also will get adverse effects at a lower dosage.

    I've yet to do a complete well planned cycle, but I have taken 12.5mg of Winstrol with androgel and had amazing pumps and results, also got terrible shoulder pain after 4 weeks that lasted another 8 weeks after stopping.

    Show a little respect, you'll get more help!

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    ok not agreeing with you craigwatts but I do react very differently to drugs then other people. I am hypersensitive to even low doses of tylenol. The thing about viagra works for me the same, I take a 1/4 of a viagra pill or a half and I am ready for action for two days full mast!! lol

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    I too will agree that by what you posted, it does sound a bit like a strong dose of ephedrine, but I'm not going to assume you don't know what you are talking about. This is the internet and I am going to just blindly assume that people that ask questions are giving truthful information. If not then why ask? If it is just to gain attention or internet 'cred', then hey, you got it. I'll always play along. But again, I will assume you know what you are talking about.

    Anavar already has a special place in my heart. I also considered using it only on workout days, though I train 6 days a week so that is pretty much moot. When I did my first cycle I decided straight off to make it a good one, so I didn't mess around. I have also bridged with it by taking it only on training days, during a training cycle that had me in the gym only 4-5 days a week, lazy I know LOL, and that had results that well exceeded my expectations. So I would not write that thought off. Though I would dose higher than I did if you wanted real cycle level gains.

    I gained an insane amount of strength and gained about 5lbs of muscle while leaning out nicely in only 7 weeks. I must be a "responder" as well. I have to laugh at anyone who says Anavar is a weak drug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supertotal View Post
    I too will agree that by what you posted, it does sound a bit like a strong dose of ephedrine, but I'm not going to assume you don't know what you are talking about. This is the internet and I am going to just blindly assume that people that ask questions are giving truthful information. If not then why ask? If it is just to gain attention or internet 'cred', then hey, you got it. I'll always play along. But again, I will assume you know what you are talking about.

    Anavar already has a special place in my heart. I also considered using it only on workout days, though I train 6 days a week so that is pretty much moot. When I did my first cycle I decided straight off to make it a good one, so I didn't mess around. I have also bridged with it by taking it only on training days, during a training cycle that had me in the gym only 4-5 days a week, lazy I know LOL, and that had results that well exceeded my expectations. So I would not write that thought off. Though I would dose higher than I did if you wanted real cycle level gains.

    I gained an insane amount of strength and gained about 5lbs of muscle while leaning out nicely in only 7 weeks. I must be a "responder" as well. I have to laugh at anyone who says Anavar is a weak drug.
    and tell us exactly what you were trying to achieve by this? and what you're comparing anavar to? do you know anything about stable levels for optimum gains and less sides?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CraigWatts View Post
    And with all due respect to everyone who replied above, you're all incorrect. Sorry.

    Anavar - 100% legit - provided by WELL KNOWN source who has given same shit to 10+ guys in my gym. Bodybuilders I know firsthand. Hulks. You can all tell them they had fake gear if you like. Make sure you come to the gym in person and tell them they're on Ephedra. Let me know time and date so I can bring a video camera.

    Keep in mind - all of you - everyone reacts to things differently. Its ridiculously ignorant for anyone to comment on someone else's experience with a drug. That reflects a total lack of education on your part.

    * Some guys die if they take Viagra. Think about it.
    * I take 1/4 dose viagra and have an erection "on call" for 2 days. Everyone else it wears off in 4 hours. At full dose.
    * The common antibiotic Erythromycin can cause cardiac arrest in certain people. Should we tell them it wasnt antibiotics but cyanide?

    Ever hear of "post marketing side effects list" ? Its well known in the medical industry. Even after they've created the "official" side effects list for a drug, the FDA requires that a post marketing list be kept. Guess what? You've got your main list, then you sell the stuff to millions of people and 30 new things get reported, and confirmed. Frequent reports are required to be placed on the official list after awhile. Side effects / results list always changes because of this. Common knowledge.

    Basic biology knowledge, and basic understanding of drugs in living systems should discourage such comments. Hypersensitivity to meds is one of the most common things on earth. Shocked nobody's heard of it. That's why some people only need X dose while others need more.

    Anyways ... Biology 101 class dismissed.

    I dont get a "buzz" from Anavar. I get a strength and stamina in the gym. There is no rush. Its a DHT derivative and mixed with Androgel I see no reason why you wouldn't be feeling a little horny 5 hours later. I know what stimulants feel like. In fact im an expert. Adderall. Ecstasy. .... This is no stimulant. Its a hormone.
    So have you got BW done yet then? Pre Var and present? I don't think you have as you alluded my last question.

    Hypersensitivity also means more sides cleverclogs.

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    do you even plan to enlighten us by getting bloodwork or are we wasting our time by asking?

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    Odd. Your Var sounds exactly like Halotestin .

    Have you considered this possibility?

    And furthermore, Anavar has a very weak androgenic effect, so it doesn't do anything for libido in men. It helps women, but that's because they are much more sensitive to androgens, as they hardly produce any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    and tell us exactly what you were trying to achieve by this? and what you're comparing anavar to? do you know anything about stable levels for optimum gains and less sides?
    I was trying to achieve exactly what I ended up achieving actually, a 'bridge' (I don't have to explain that term here) between cycles. Not to gain, not to lose what I had gained. There is a longer story behind my reasoning but I won't get into that again. Halfway through the experiment, I found I was still gaining a bit too hard. It was feeling like a mild cycle. I did not want that, nor did I want the negatives of that at the time. So I backed off by dropping to one cap every 4-5 days instead of every day. Basically, I know very well what I am capable clean, and what a real cycle feels like. Plus I know what ephedrine does as well. It's one of my favorites.

    Now, I am curious what you meant by the second line. If by stable levels you mean the Anavar would be inconsistent in my system, then I would have to disagree. One thing I have found is that it really doesn't make that much difference in this particular case. When I ended my first cycle, even tapering off in the last week, I was still seeing serious gains for almost 2 weeks after the last pill. In fact, I hit my biggest numbers of the cycle 4 days after the taper started on 1/3 of the normal dose I was taking (only 30mg Anavar that day and for the last 3). I would also not notice if I missed my dose pre-workout. My understanding is that you just need it in your system. If you want a big cycle you need a lot in your system, mild cycle? then not so much in your system. When exactly you dose, as in, which hour, or with stronger cycles, missing one day, doesn't seem to matter so much. Or at least it didn't in my case. This isn't test suspension, or prop, which we are discussing in another thread right now.

    Hope that makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supertotal View Post
    I was trying to achieve exactly what I ended up achieving actually, a 'bridge' (I don't have to explain that term here) between cycles. Not to gain, not to lose what I had gained. There is a longer story behind my reasoning but I won't get into that again. Halfway through the experiment, I found I was still gaining a bit too hard. It was feeling like a mild cycle. I did not want that, nor did I want the negatives of that at the time. So I backed off by dropping to one cap every 4-5 days instead of every day. Basically, I know very well what I am capable clean, and what a real cycle feels like. Plus I know what ephedrine does as well. It's one of my favorites.

    Now, I am curious what you meant by the second line. If by stable levels you mean the Anavar would be inconsistent in my system, then I would have to disagree. One thing I have found is that it really doesn't make that much difference in this particular case. When I ended my first cycle, even tapering off in the last week, I was still seeing serious gains for almost 2 weeks after the last pill. In fact, I hit my biggest numbers of the cycle 4 days after the taper started on 1/3 of the normal dose I was taking (only 30mg Anavar that day and for the last 3). I would also not notice if I missed my dose pre-workout. My understanding is that you just need it in your system. If you want a big cycle you need a lot in your system, mild cycle? then not so much in your system. When exactly you dose, as in, which hour, or with stronger cycles, missing one day, doesn't seem to matter so much. Or at least it didn't in my case. This isn't test suspension, or prop, which we are discussing in another thread right now.

    Hope that makes sense.
    oh jesus lol. who exactly do you think you're bullshitting here? and im not insinuating i know everything, but alot of guys on here have alot of experience, do you seriously think anyone believes this crap? what a joke lol

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    OP you dont even understand the basic pharmacology. If you had a clue about how anavar works and illicts its effects youd know your either experiencong placebo effect or have something else. Hypersensativity to substanes is most frequently associated with low cyp enzyme levels of the specific cypp enzyme responsible for the drug metabolism. It really is a reduction in the bodies ability to metaboliza the substance. Given you are taking 1/4 the dose many take it is much more likely you are in fact experiencing placebro effect or you have something else. Either way given the UNHEARD of response you believe you are getting from anavar - why be surprised at peoples reactions? Your attempts to scientifically justify or explain it are weak to those that have some knowledge in that area- so that sure doesnt justify your attitude twords peoples skepticism. If you in fact have incredably low cyp enzyme levels you would also have many adverse effects as the very same enzymes metabolize a myriad of substances that would be detrimental (ie estrogen , cortisol,progesterone , toxins, and much more) . In any event if the pharmakinetics are altered due to low cyp levels the liklyhood that the ultimate pharmacodynamics would change is very slim. Especially given the fact that people regulary take 4x this dose and dont experience what you are.
    Now I wasnt gonna post but when you start saying biology class dismissed type BS -thats enough for me.


    ps - I should add I do not wish to argue as to whether or not what you believe you are feeling is real - you believe it - so for you it in fact is real. It may also be realand not anavar. Either way however, to seek similar contentions or even acceptance of something so unlikely or unheard of is just never gonna happen.
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    If you take Anavar and can lift a car, keep taking Anavar. If you eat a cube of sugar and can lift a car, keep eating cubes of sugar. Who know's really what's in your Anavar pills even if it comes from a reputable source. Unless it's pharma grade regulated by FDA it's still UGL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kamilo1975 View Post
    You have to take it everyday.
    Most definitely,,,take it daily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    Odd. Your Var sounds exactly like Halotestin.

    Have you considered this possibility?

    And furthermore, Anavar has a very weak androgenic effect, so it doesn't do anything for libido in men. It helps women, but that's because they are much more sensitive to androgens, as they hardly produce any.
    This was my first thought too. Actually, fake/placebo was my first thought, then Halo. I live in Thailand and have seen no fewer than 4 fake types of Ox. Only one real that I know of. My gym is full of 70 kg dudes cutting (Ha!! I know!!) on fake var and swearing by it. What's happening is since they spent so much money they're training like fiends and eating correctly for the first time in their lives and seeing the results of that behavior. Amazing, they have no sides....

    On the other hand, that Halo....whew!!! I've seen guy's eyes go yellow on that after a week!!! YIKES!! I've got some but I've always been afraid/never had a good enough reason to use it...

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    Why are you taking months off from the gym and then jumping on any AAS?

    You sound VERY young and irresponsible to me. Your sides do sound like halo. Var is the most commonly faked or substituted AAS because it's so expensive.

    Get bloodwork done please if you want any real help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gymfu View Post
    Why are you taking months off from the gym and then jumping on any AAS?

    You sound VERY young and irresponsible to me. Your sides do sound like halo. Var is the most commonly faked or substituted AAS because it's so expensive.

    Get bloodwork done please if you want any real help.
    Well, Halo raws cost about 5X more than Anavar .
    But his dealer may just be charging a shitload for the world's most potent Var

    Come to think of it, Methyltren (mislabeled dosing, of course) and Superdrol would give similar results as well, AND there would be a huge financial incentive.
    Hmmm....

    But Mibolerone is out of the running, since it is highly estrogenic and progestigenic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    oh jesus lol. who exactly do you think you're bullshitting here? and im not insinuating i know everything, but alot of guys on here have alot of experience, do you seriously think anyone believes this crap? what a joke lol
    Glad I can amuse you then.

    Not BS'ing anyone, nor trying to. Perhaps you misinterpreted. My idea for doing that was not to make crazy cycle gains, it was merely to maintain and not have to go off at that time and suffer the consequences. Nor did I want to have to recover from what was starting to feel like a mild cycle right before I was about to do another real one. I have read about bridging in here and it is not usually met with this kind of disbelief or ridicule.

    I still have serious ambitions, and am getting behind the 8-ball age wise, so I have decided to skip the usual easing into things that is councilled here. I understand the reasoning, I see the need, but I have got to make a dent in five years time. No more *****footing around. I'll deal with the consequences when I'm 40.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supertotal View Post
    Glad I can amuse you then.

    Not BS'ing anyone, nor trying to. Perhaps you misinterpreted. My idea for doing that was not to make crazy cycle gains, it was merely to maintain and not have to go off at that time and suffer the consequences. Nor did I want to have to recover from what was starting to feel like a mild cycle right before I was about to do another real one. I have read about bridging in here and it is not usually met with this kind of disbelief or ridicule.

    I still have serious ambitions, and am getting behind the 8-ball age wise, so I have decided to skip the usual easing into things that is councilled here. I understand the reasoning, I see the need, but I have got to make a dent in five years time. No more *****footing around. I'll deal with the consequences when I'm 40.
    Man, I'm here to tell you, saying you'll deal with the consequences when your forty is like saying 75 years old is long enough to live. I don't think you'll find many 74 year olds agreeing with you there. I'm 47 and still going strong. I'd have hated it if I'd fvcked myself up earlier and now couldn't workout/have sex, whatever. Christ, I live in Thailand, how much would that suck!!! LOL!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supertotal View Post
    Glad I can amuse you then.

    Not BS'ing anyone, nor trying to. Perhaps you misinterpreted. My idea for doing that was not to make crazy cycle gains, it was merely to maintain and not have to go off at that time and suffer the consequences. Nor did I want to have to recover from what was starting to feel like a mild cycle right before I was about to do another real one. I have read about bridging in here and it is not usually met with this kind of disbelief or ridicule.


    I still have serious ambitions, and am getting behind the 8-ball age wise, so I have decided to skip the usual easing into things that is councilled here. I understand the reasoning, I see the need, but I have got to make a dent in five years
    time. No more *****footing around. I'll deal with the consequences when I'm 40.



    Wow, that the most ridiculous thing I've see someone post here. How old are you ? 10?

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    OP isn't gonna listen to reason here

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Titan99 View Post
    Man, I'm here to tell you, saying you'll deal with the consequences when your forty is like saying 75 years old is long enough to live. I don't think you'll find many 74 year olds agreeing with you there. I'm 47 and still going strong. I'd have hated it if I'd fvcked myself up earlier and now couldn't workout/have sex, whatever. Christ, I live in Thailand, how much would that suck!!! LOL!!!
    big time!! lol

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    Var on it's own is a waste. End.

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    more I read this thread the more I want to know what he is taking...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gearbox View Post
    more I read this thread the more I want to know what he is taking...
    I want to unsub this one, but it's like staring at a car accident. I think here soon I might witness a top 10 stupid post...

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    Yep the thread that won't die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoNNy THe BuLL View Post
    Var on it's own is a waste. End.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd the truth View Post
    Yep the thread that won't die.
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