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04-05-2003, 06:06 PM #1New Member
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DNP Diet
Hey people,
hopefully I should be doing a 2-3 week 200-400mg DNP cycle during my downtime from the gym in a couple weeks. I have always tried to low card before but this time I am going to use a completely different approach.
Because of this post
"Credit to Fonz for this info...
Here's the proof as to WHY having a HIGH CARB intake while on DNP(if Kcal's are kept the same) is BETTER.
Before I start, Stew, Macro, Cockedzl, Andy etc...
THIS IS AN APPROXIMATION since all bodily processess
are ineffective andtend to entropy.(become chaotic)
Ok, Lets Use Bodybuilder 1 and Bodybuilder 2.
Bodybuilder 1 eats 2000Kcal/day composed of 60% carbs,
30% protein, 10% fat
Bodybuilder 2 eats 2000Kcal/day composed of 40% fat/30%
protein/ 30% carbs (Basically a zone-type diet)
Now:
Carbs convert to glucose with 100% efficiency
Protein converts to glucose with 58% efficiency and the
rest is ketones.
Fat converts to glucose at 10% and the rest are ketones.
Ketones btw=Fats
DNP, btw BURNS DIETARY FAT BEFORE STORED FAT.
REMEMBER that fact!!!!!
So,
Bodybuilder 1 produces the following by-products:
60% carbs / 2000Kcal= 1200Kcal/4Kcal/g=300g glucose(carbs)
30% protein/2000Kcal= 600Kcal/4Kcal/g=150g protein,
*0.58%= 87g glucose and 63g ketones.
10% Fat/ 2000Kcal= 200Kcal/9Kcal/g= 22.g * 0.1%= 0.2g
glucose and 2g Ketones.
So, total for bodybuilder 1:
Total Glucose: 387.2g glucose
Total Ketones: 65g Ketones
Bodybuilder 2 produces the following by-products:
30% carbs/ 2000Kcal= 600/4= 150g glucose
30% protein/ 2000 Kcal = 600/4 = 150g protein * 0.58%= 87g
glucose and 67g ketones
40% Fat/ 2000Kcal = 800/9Kcal/g= 88.9g Fat = 8.9g glucose
and 80g ketones.
Total glucose: 245.9g glucose
Total Ketones: 147g Ketones
NOW, LETS COMPARE
HIGHER CARB:
Total glucose: 387.2g glucose
Total Ketones: 65g Ketones
HIGHER FAT:
Total glucose: 245.9g lucose
Total Ketones: 147g Ketones
WHAT DOES DNP ULTIMATELY DO? Render the conversion of
glucose to ATP into HEAT PRODUCTION.
So, bodybuilder 1: Carbs= Heat
Ketones= 65g*7Kcal/g= 455Kcal
And, Bodybuilder 2: Carbs= Heat
Ketones= 147g*7Kcal/g= 1017.5Kcal
(Ketones btw=oxidized fatty acids that yield 7Kcal/gram)
NOW, can you see the MASSIVE DIFFERENCE!!!!!!
Bodybuilder1 WILL CREATE an EXTRA 562.5Kcal
deficit just by macro-nutrient manipulation.
Thats approx. 124% more calories dissipated than
bodybuilder 2. That means MORE ADIPOSE TISSUE
BURNT FOR FUEL.
Therefore, following a high-carb diet while on DNP will increase
adipose tissue burning through caloric dissipation.
Godspeed"
Basically it says to use lowfat because DNP burns dietary fat first.
I plan to run 45% protein/45% carbs / 10 %fat
200g of protein/200 carbs/ 30-40 grams of fat.
1870cals - 1960cals everyday.
3g of ALA everyday. I have stayed in ketosis before with 180 g of carbs a day @ 3-4 grams fo ALA. Would it be bad if I got into slight ketosis @ 200 grams of carbs a day on DNP?
Let me know your thoughts. When I actually get the goods and I know this is happening I will post an exact diet.
Bump for any experiences
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04-05-2003, 07:09 PM #2
diet looks goot, maybe a little less carbs, but that should work.
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04-05-2003, 07:17 PM #3New Member
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thanks, well I seem to stay in ketosis upto 180g of carbs ed. What would happen if I was in ketosis on DNP with such low fat (like non traditional CKD)?
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