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    Test-400 & Tren A (Stack)

    I just have some really important questions and I hope people will give me some quick answers on this one. I am about to start a cycle and stack test-400 with some Tren -A and I have heard quite a few different things on how to start the cycle, ramp up to the correct weekly doses, and from there how many mgs and times a week to do it. My plan looked something like this. . .

    Weeks 1-3: Test-400 (200 mg on Monday/Thursday) TEST = 400mg week
    Weeks 1-3: Tren-A (50 mg on Monday/Thursday) TREN = 100 mg week

    Weeks 4-12(13): Test-400 (400 mg on Monday/Thursday) TEST = 800 mg week
    Weeks 4-12(13): Tren-A (100 mg on Monday/Thursday) TREN-A = 200 mg week

    Weeks 1-12(13): 200 MG of Vitamin B(ED); 1 Pill of Milk Thistle(ED)

    For my PCT I was going to run Clomid as follows:
    200mg day 1(2 weeks after last injection); 100mg days 2-13; 50mg 14-28

    PLEASE HELP!!!!
    RICKY ROGES

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    Stats?
    Cycle history?

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    I am 5'7 185 pounds, 8.6% BF. Working out since i was 14, now im 23. Put on 85 pounds of lean muscle in 6-7 years on my own. Never cycled

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    Read info on tren before starting that stuff. The fact that you plan to inject tren A only twice a week tells me you are not ready for it!

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    Would you please elaborate because i have heard quite a bit of mixed feelings on this topic. Im up for your criticism but please just elaborate on what you think is the best way to do it

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    Tren A is a short esther and needs to be injected at least EOD....some even suggest ED. Since this is your first cycle you would have to prepare for many more pokes

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    Not to mention the fact that (again Most) will tell you that 12 weeks is TO long for Tren A and that it should only be done for about 8 weeks or so. Before anything...start clicking and reading. There is alot of great (and mixed) advice on Tren. Do your homework a liilte first!

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    I knew that it was short, but does it really mean you need to do it every day. I was told mon wed friday would be sufficient. What bout running test week 1-4 and then just stacking for weeks 5-12

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    There are sooo many diff. things people will tell you about Tren . If you were told MON/Wed/Fri then why the hell post you plan to inject Mon/Thur??? You should goe EOD for sure to keep levels steady. Like I stated...DO SOME READING! You can find almost every piece of info you need if you just read a little.

    To cover your question. I would start Tren and Test together and run the test out longer. Ex. test 1-12 tren 1-8

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    There are sooo many diff. things people will tell you about Tren . If you were told MON/Wed/Fri then why the hell post you plan to inject Mon/Thur??? You should goe EOD for sure to keep levels steady. Like I stated...DO SOME READING! You can find almost every piece of info you need if you just read a little.

    To cover your question. I would start Tren and Test together and run the test out longer. Ex. test 1-12 tren 1-8

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    PLEASE DONT LISTEN TO ANYTHING THIS GUY "lunk1" HAS TOLD YOU

    You should NOT be doing Tren for your first cycle, this is a much more advanced compound with serious side effects.

    You are also on the young side to be doing a cycle but if you are going to do it anyway, you should definitly be doing a Test ONLY cycle at 400-500mg week for 12 week
    Do not ramp up or down and male sure you research and have ready a full PCT as well as an AI on hand to use or use if needed, you might also want to consider HCG to prevent testicular astrophy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    There are sooo many diff. things people will tell you about Tren . If you were told MON/Wed/Fri then why the hell post you plan to inject Mon/Thur??? You should goe EOD for sure to keep levels steady. Like I stated...DO SOME READING! You can find almost every piece of info you need if you just read a little.

    To cover your question. I would start Tren and Test together and run the test out longer. Ex. test 1-12 tren 1-8
    Mate you should NOT be giving out advice to anyone, obviously YOU need to "do some reading" yourself.

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    Hey Gonz....seems to me I was trying to tell him pretty much the same thing. I told him over and over...read more info. The very first thing I told hime was NOOO tren .

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    Ok mate, Just got the impression you were leading him down a path of misery and thats what it would have been for him lol

    Bro NO TREN ...

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    Bro you are to young you risk doing serious damage to your endo system.You need to work on your diet and knowledge of AAS before you start a cycle.See you in 2 years.

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    I was just asking fellas, how else can I learn without asking questions about things like this. First and foremost everyone i have talked to has said no Tren ? let me hear some of your reasons for that?

    Why not just get the test?

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    Advice generally isnt handed out to guys under 25 but if you are dead set on it, look into the test only cycle at 400-500mg week, 12 weeks (not that I would suggest you do it until 25) Kepp training hard and spend another year or 2 tweaking your diet to perfection, you will get some great gains from getting that dialed in.

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    Advice generally isnt handed out to guys under 25 but if you are dead set on it, look into the test only cycle at 400-500mg week, 12 weeks (not that I would suggest you do it until 25) Kepp training hard and spend another year or 2 tweaking your diet to perfection, you will get some great gains from getting that dialed in.

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