I've been taking Tornel Test200 by itself for about two months now. Although strength and weight gains; 20 pounds weight, 85 pounds bench, have been good, I haven't gotten the jacked up, superman feeling I had when I was able to get American Testoviron . I liked that feeling. I just acquired a bottle of Valopharm Test400. I've read good things about it on the boards but I'm wondering, for anybody who knows, if Valopharm is closer in quality to Tornel or the American Testoviron. I'm hoping the Testoviron. I'd appreciate any feedback. Thanks. Peace.