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    Cool 16 week second cycle

    23, 3.5 yrs serious bodybuilding, 6'0 roughly 13% BF (going down tho), 1 basic cycle, 205 lbs

    I have my second cycle all set to go ( in 2 months)
    its kinda mix of bulk and cutting cycle (didnt hear great things of winny, so I took that option out)

    Prop WK 1 - 8 200 mg EOD
    Deca WK 1 - 8 600 mg WK ?? 800 mg WK
    Eq WK 7 - 16 400 mg WK
    Test Enan WK 7 - 16 500 mg WK

    Should I use ENAN in second phase or first one, as I dont like ED shots
    I am using PROP to jump start the gains, or should I use 750 mg Sust from WK 7 - 16, wk 1 - 8 PROP?

    or should I do this?

    Prop WK 1 - 2 200 mg EOD
    Test Enan WK 3 - 14 500 mg WK
    Deca WK 1 - 8 600 mg WK ?? 800 mg WK
    Eq WK 7 - 16 400 mg WK
    Test Prop WK 15 - 16 500 mg WK

    obviosly nolva ED and HCG to come off
    wk 3,4,5 out 5000, 1000, 5000 IU??


    of course, I am gonna take 2g/lb protein and increase caloric intake to 4000/5000

    anything else I am missing here?

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    hummm 500mg of prop each week, its like the testosterone roller coaster...

    i would go with the prop till week 5.
    im on prop/enan right now and enan have no kick yet so to keep the intense pump and test level right you should go this way: 100mg ed IMO is better than 200mg eod if pins dont scare you

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    heres what i would do....

    wks 1-4 Test prop 100mg/eod
    wks 1-12 Test enan 600mg/wk
    wks 1-12 Eq 400-600mg/wk
    wks 13-16 Test prop 100mg/ed
    *wks 13-16 Fina 75mg/ed* (Optional of course)
    wks 12 and 16 HCG 1000iu/ed
    Followed by clomid and/or nolvadex

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    What do you guys think of this ...

    wk 1 - 4 200 mg Prop EOD ( is it too high to jump start??)
    wk 1 - 8 600/800 mg Deca /wk (I am thinking bulking to begin with)
    wk 3 - 12 Test Enan 600 mg/wk
    WK 7 - 16 EQ 600 mg/wk (as I finish Deca, start EQ for cutting)
    wk 13 - 16 Test Prop 100mg EOD

    HCG and clomid therapy to finish and nolva starting wk 12 or 15??

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    Originally posted by Big_BoneZ
    What do you guys think of this ...

    wk 1 - 4 200 mg Prop EOD ( is it too high to jump start??)
    wk 1 - 8 600/800 mg Deca /wk (I am thinking bulking to begin with)
    wk 3 - 12 Test Enan 600 mg/wk
    WK 7 - 16 EQ 600 mg/wk (as I finish Deca, start EQ for cutting)
    wk 13 - 16 Test Prop 100mg EOD

    HCG and clomid therapy to finish and nolva starting wk 12 or 15??

    for your 2nd cycle the doses you are running are a bit high....drop your prop to 75mg ed...pick either deca or eq and run it the whole time..not both..heres how id run it..Madmax

    prop 75mg ed (1-4)
    test cyp 600mg (1-12)
    eq 400mg (1-12)
    prop 75mg ed (10-15)

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    Run the EQ all 16 weeks... you arent going to notice much in 9.

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    prop 150mg eod (1-4)
    test cyp 600mg (1-12)
    eq 400mg (1-16)
    prop 150mg eod (11-16)


    how does this sound??... I want to gain 30 pounds.. I know its kinda ridiculous to expect, but I am gonna be real great with my intake (diet)... is this practical???

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    I agree with Lift Chief. Run the EQ the whole time. It can take up to 5-6 weeks for it to really kick in!

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    Originally posted by Big_BoneZ
    prop 150mg eod (1-4)
    test cyp 600mg (1-12)
    eq 400mg (1-16)
    prop 150mg eod (11-16)


    how does this sound??... I want to gain 30 pounds.. I know its kinda ridiculous to expect, but I am gonna be real great with my intake (diet)... is this practical???
    Looks good to me!

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    OK got it Finalized like this

    WK 1 - 10 Deca 600 mg/wk
    WK 1 - 3 Prop 100mg EOD
    WK 1 - 14 Test Enan 600 mg/wk
    WK 15, 16 Prop 200 mg EOD

    WK 17,18 nolva 40mg ED
    WK 19,20 nolva 20mg ED
    WK 17,18 clomid 100mg ED
    WK 19,20 clomid 50mg ED

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    Originally posted by Big_BoneZ
    OK got it Finalized like this

    WK 1 - 10 Deca 600 mg/wk
    WK 1 - 3 Prop 100mg EOD
    WK 1 - 14 Test Enan 600 mg/wk
    WK 15, 16 Prop 200 mg EOD

    WK 17,18 nolva 40mg ED
    WK 19,20 nolva 20mg ED
    WK 17,18 clomid 100mg ED
    WK 19,20 clomid 50mg ED
    Looks good, may go 12 on the deca but it's your call, it's only a suggestion

    JohnnyB

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    what sides can I expect from this cycle??

    after clomid/hcg therapy..

    post cycle??

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