Deca, S250, HCG, Clomid

This is my first cycle and I don't want any gyno or any other side affects. I want balls back to normal ASAP with no issues. A very respected body builder gave me this as a starter...

300mg Deca & 250mg Sust. per week for 6 weeks.
750iu's of HCG per day for 4 days
100 mg of Clomid for 7 days, then 50 mg for 10 days

Any inputs? Would appreciate all advice. Keep in mind I don't want gyno, sexual disfunction, etc. Using an anti-estrogen would most likely be a waste at these small doses.


:dg: You're either in....or in the way!! :dg:

that very respected bb doesnt seem to have cycle knowledge imo

500mg sust/wk 1-11
300-400mg deca/wk 1-10
no hcg-not necessary
clomid 300/100/50
nolv on hand

He's one of the best in Canada.

I actually don't want a 10 week cycle either...it's too long.

I was told that Clomid is extremely toxic on the liver. On a scale of 10...Clomid is a 9.5. Taking that much Clomid would harsh.

Well, if you want to still do your cycle, let us know about your results. I have a feeling they wont be squat. Deca for one, wont kick in until week 4, and the sust wont give you that much gains for that short term of use. and if you dont want to take clomid that way, have fun with your inhibition and small testicles.-On that, i am speaking from experience btw.
In any event, good luck, and hopefully some other bros with give their imput.

I do trust my guy...but would like other input. This guy goes from 260 (20% bf) to a competing weight of 210 (1-2 %bf). He must know his stuff.

Any other thoughts out there? I was thinking about using Proviron with the HCG too.

Listen to vette the cycle he gave you is a good one i might change the sus to a single ester test for a first time user imo. The cycle you had planned out by a respected bb isnt planned out all that well.

Okay...here's the scoop...I can pretty much get any AS. What would be a good first cycle based on the criteria...I don't want gyno, sexual side effects after the cycle, acne, etc. I also don't want to get huge. I want solid gains with fat loss.

See below for original message.

wow that short what the heck, deca is a slow gaining drug. You gain over longer periods of time and the results stay longer. U can trust you're guy all u want but when its all said and done dont expect much. I "trusted" my guy once too, not the best thing in the world to do.

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Originally posted by Bobby Flay
I do trust my guy...but would like other input. This guy goes from 260 (20% bf) to a competing weight of 210 (1-2 %bf). He must know his stuff.

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1-2% thats lower than anyone ive ever met....his cycle sucks bro, change it up..try this....Madmax

d-bol 30mg (1-4)
test cyp 400mg (1-10)
deca 300mg (1-10)

theres no need for hcg in this cycle, and i would extend the clomid intake if you want your nuts back