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    help on this cycle - deca and sust..

    help on this cycle - deca /test cycle
    new to this......sooo be free to give ur opions

    i'm 5'10 at 130lbs with 10%bf age 22 been training for all most 3years now started at 95lbs basically a stick.......metabolic rate is too high ........plannin to go on the following cycle:

    deca sustanon

    week1 100mg/week 100mg/week
    week2 200mg/week 250mg/week
    week3 200mg/week 250mg/week
    week4 300mg/week 350mg/week
    week5 300mg/week 350mg/week
    week6 200mg/week 250mg/week
    week7 200mg/week 250mg/week
    week8 100mg/week 100mg/week

    hcg 3-4shots of 1500i.u. every 5 days after cycle
    clomid about 10days after last shot of hcg 100mg/day -1thru 5 and 50mg/day 6 thru 10.
    proviron in hand.......plan on starting from 2nd week of cycle

    supplements to be used:
    creatine
    glutamine
    meal replacement s and whey protein
    anti-oxidants
    liver tabs

    diet would consist of abt 200gms of protein 350-400gms of carbs n rest fat

    note:
    had done a small cycle of only deca with doses upto 200mg running it for abt 6weeks a year ago...and had gains of about 10-11lbs

    please help me give ur necessary inputs to this ......as i'm plannin on goin onto this cycle in 2 weeks from now......thanks

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    If this is your first cycle you only need Sust. You should gain about 20 lbs. taking 500mg sust/week for 8 weeks. Depending on if you eat right and train right.

    You wouldn't gain much more using Deca with it being you are a first time user. It's a little less expensive cycle with the same gains. But make sure you run your clomid 10 days after your last injection.

    I am into my 4th cycle and I am only taking Sust. 500mg weeks 1-3, 750mg weeks 4-7, 1000mg weeks 8-11, and 500mg week 12.

    Sust is a great AS for bulk and strength. It also has low water retention and burns fat also. It is a excellent AS all on it's own. When you become more advanced then you can start stacking AS as needed.

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    I would throw in some dbols. Youll love it! Great kickstart to you cycle. Mine looks like this.

    1-4 dbol . 35mgs.ed
    1-10 sust 500mgs. split into eod.
    1-10 deca 400mgs. ew.
    and of course clomid.

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    Originally posted by Gettinbig2
    I would throw in some dbols. Youll love it! Great kickstart to you cycle. Mine looks like this.

    1-4 dbol . 35mgs.ed
    1-10 sust 500mgs. split into eod.
    1-10 deca 400mgs. ew.
    and of course clomid.
    Agreed.
    There's no need to taper. And plus those dosages you listed aren't going to do jack for you IMO.

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    1. No need to Taper
    2. Up the Test to 500
    3. Clomid is 3wks after last injection
    4. Do at least 10wks on Sust. If your going to do 8wks, you might as well use straight prop
    5. Sust needs to be shot EOD to utilize the prop effeciently

    I would normally say go ahead and stack the Deca into the mix but with your size it is just too much. If you had 30 more lbs I would say go for it. The combonation of an anabolic and an Androgenic produces great changes in gains not only by poundage but also in composition, and feeling of the body due to a number of factors that are specific to the different Anabolics, but you need somemore size on you to be stacking a total of 800mg(which is what I would normally advise for a first-500/300)


    Wk1-10 500mg Sust split up m/w/f
    Clomid 3wks after last injection for 3wks
    300mg-day 1, 100mg-10 days, 50mg-10 days

    Also, you need more food
    220g protein= 880 calories
    450g Carbs=1800 calories
    60g Fat====540 calories

    3220-Total

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    How are you planning on injecting 100mg of sust?

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    my friends doing sust eood. So 500mgs a week, he's been getting good results. EOD for me is too much $$$. fucking 17bucks/amp crap@%

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    you live in CA and pay 17 bucks an amp for Sus????!!! Damn!

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    i live in india and u get sustanon 250 as well as sustanon 100 out here.....

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