female needs help please

**cassann20** · 05-01-2003, 03:03 PM

i am 5'8", 148. i work-out daily. i want more muscle definition, maybe a little bigger. should i go with
primobolan depot & anavar tabs
OR
primobolan & winn

**Face** · 05-01-2003, 03:06 PM

if you want muscle definition the easiest way to do that is drop body fat. do cardio in the am and weights at night. got a pic? you're only 21/22? i don't think it would be a good idea for you to cycle.

FACE

***Pheedno*** · 05-01-2003, 03:13 PM

cassann, I would suggest to request access to the female forum from Jason, their is a specific thread for it if you do a seach. He should give access shortly and their are many knowledgable women in there that can help you out with all your questions

**cassann20** · 05-01-2003, 03:23 PM

well thanx, but if dropping weight is that easy i wouldn't be on here.

Cass

***Pheedno*** · 05-01-2003, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by Face
if you want muscle definition the easiest way to do that is drop body fat. do cardio in the am and weights at night. got a pic? you're only 21/22? i don't think it would be a good idea for you to cycle.

FACE

Whats with the pic bro?

**cassann20** · 05-01-2003, 03:28 PM

i was wondering the same thing

**01dragonslayer** · 05-01-2003, 10:24 PM

Originally posted by cassann20
well thanx, but if dropping weight is that easy i wouldn't be on here.

Cass

Your right, its not easy. Unfortunately steroids DO NOT burn fat, with the exception of tren and possibly anavar (and even thats questionable). The absolute best way to burn unwanted BF is cardio. Try doing your cardio first thing in the A.M. on an empty stomach. Thats the most effective for maximum fat loss. I also agree with pheedno in that you should try and post this in the female forum. Good luck.

**Red Ketchup** · 05-02-2003, 06:54 AM

Don't wanna hijack the thread, but it looks like the weiner dog stole Bucky's nuts

Red

**OGPackin** · 05-02-2003, 07:21 AM

Hi cassann20, 01dragonslayer here 100%! Theres misconception out there that AS will magically help u lose weight or bf. Well its not true sorry to say. And at 20, 21 theres no way u cant motivate urself to do cardio to lose the bf u want. Id also take a hard look at ur diet and see if u can make any changes that might help u. We are just trying to give u the best advice we can. plz dont take offense to what we'r saying. Good luck!

OG

**DADDYDBOL** · 05-02-2003, 07:41 AM

yeh you should really try to do it naturally. your not really "overweight" to the point where you need to make drastic changes. just refine your diet and run your *** off. send pics...............( ;

**dizzle** · 05-02-2003, 08:53 AM

A NICE LITTLE ARTICLE FOR THE LADIES courtesy of IROC from AF.

Important to remember, steroids BUILD muscle, and are not for fat loss purposes. If losing some extra pounds and toning up is your goal, then there are many products out there, geared to losing weight, besides the obvious of making a change in diet and your exercise routine.

Steroids should be considered when you have worked out for at least two years or more and are at your ideal body weight. Then any gains made by the steriod use, will be pure muscle, and your hard earned money will not be wasted.

A great beginner cycle for women is Anavar . Anavar is one of the mildest anabolics out there, with low androgenic activity. It is known to increase strength and add quality muscle. Any women fearing side effects should definitely stick to Anavar. At a low dose of 5 mg everyday, most women see no ill side effects. A typical cycle should run from 6-8 weeks.

Primobolan is another mild steroid . It does not convert into estrogen, which is a plus, if water retention is a worry for you. Most women respond well to a dosage of 50-100mg per week. A typical time frame to run this would be 8-10 weeks. Some side effects to watch out for include oily skin, acne and a possible increase in facial/body hair. Primobolan will give a slow, steady increase in strength and builds quality muscle.

Winstrol can be taken orally or be injected. Winstrol should not be used for a beginner’s cycle. Most women either love winny or they hate it. It is a favorable drug to be used in a cutting cycle, when your diet is good. Winstrol builds mass and gives awesome strength gains. Side effects can occur, and things to watch out for include deepening of voice, enlarged or sensitive clitoris, and acne. Women usually take 5-10mg daily. Keeping this dose low will decrease chances of unwanted side effects. It is usually wise to split the dose up during the day, to keep blood levels on an even base. With the injection, usually 25mg every 3rd or 4th day is a normal dosing. Run this cycle for 8 weeks. Remember to take milk thistle, because this steroid is stressful on the liver.

Deca is a popular steriod among female competitors. Even though it is only slightly androgenic, sometimes virilization can be expected. Keeping the doses low and monitoring for sides can nip these unwanted sides early. Sides will include excess facial/body hair; some women on the other hand report cases of losing hair. Once again, low dosing is key. Deca is not a fast builder of muscle, but slow, gradual gainer of muscle and strength. Women should start at around 50mg per week. If virilization is at all a concern, then possibly trying the shorter acting nadrolone Durabolin might be a option.

If you must dabble in testosterone , then Test Prop should be the choice; only because it is in and out of your system fast. So if any unwanted sides appeared, all that you need to do is stop using, and it will be cleared from your system fast. It’s good to spread the injections out, generally using 25mg to 50mg per injection, every 5 to 7 days. This cycle should exceed 8 weeks. Sides to look for include clitoral enlargement; excess facial/body hair; deepening of voice; oily skin; acne; and increase sexual libido (not a bad side, really ) It is very important to monitor your self closely while using test.

Women do not need to taper on their cycles of steroids; once the cycle is over, then just discontinue use (one good benefit of not having balls).
A lot of side effects brought on by anabolic steriod use is irreversible for women. Make sure you have researched and read personal testimonies before choosing your drug.

**01dragonslayer** · 05-02-2003, 09:45 AM

Nice post Diz.

**cassann20** · 05-03-2003, 05:30 PM

THANK YOU DIZ!

CASS

**ECFATCAT** · 05-03-2003, 06:07 PM

think of it this way. the more muscle you have the more calories being burned......right get huge and the cut protein and calories to shrink down to the size you want ..remember...diet is everything .....Face isn't too fair off .....