i just need some good advice from anyone wanting to help

[jwill75]

hey guys , sorry to keep bothering you all but i really need some advice, as you all are the only ones that can help. i have studied up and steriods and have an opinion that they can be very helpful in building and shaping ones body.I really need a boost,so im going to do 1 cycleof aratest and wintrol v. im already on vitamins,whey protein with glatamine(i think thats how u spell it, lol), liver pills and have a diet put together by my personal trainer. im 5'7 ,24 ,145 pounds, thats why i need a boost, lol, but serioulsy i want to put a cycle together that would benefit me to the highest level then i would just stay on my natural exercise plan. im already chaning body composition but i want more. i want to add maybe 30 pounds. im not trying to be huge but a very fit body and im determined these 2 can get me there. i was think about wintrol 3 times a week , 1 cc. and then test twice of 1 cc, guys please help as im going to do them but i would rather know some very educated opinions.I have also read that when used properly that these 2 can be the safest. that why im turning to you guys. you can hit me back on here , or you can even im me aol im, jeremyscguy, or [email protected]....................thanks so much , if everything goes well i will owe a very fit body from you guys, and by the way do they go bad at any time,is room temp ok

[FedSki]

Quite difficult to follow all of that.

If you are looking for lean gains then Winny and Test is not a bad combination in the amounts you described.

Make sure you have some Nolva and Clomid ready.

BTW, how old are you and how long have you been training?

[jwill75]

where can i get clomid and nolva, and what does that help, thanks , im 24 and and have been working out for a year but only hitting it really hard with the diet about 3 or 4 months

[956Vette]

Originally posted by jwill75
where can i get clomid and nolva, and what does that help, thanks , im 24 and and have been working out for a year but only hitting it really hard with the diet about 3 or 4 months

If you really dont know this, you should reconsider doing a cycle right now. Sorry, but it sounds like you need to spend more time researching before you do anything.
good luck though

[956Vette]

You could start by reading the drug profiles, and looking in the educational forum.

[chicamahomico]

Ya dude, put it off for a little while yet, 3-6 months at least. There is so much room for dramatic results with hard training and a good diet at your level(by this I mean how long you've ben working out for). You came to the right place though.

[gundam675]

bro, listen to these guys, when i first came to this board ,they told me to wait afew months and do more research, and i did. and i learned alot. do some more research, winny and test is gay for mass, ill start you off:

this cycle will put lots of mass on, really depends on your caloric intake

week 1 - 10: deca 400mg/ew
week 1 - 8: sustanon 500mg/ew
week 1 - 4: d-bol 40 mg/ed (8 tabs)
week 1 - 6: maybe 25mg proviron /ed
week 3 - 8: novaldex 10mg/ed

2 weeks after deca stack clomid 300mg day 1/ 100mg/ed day 2 - day 11/ 50mg/ed day 12 - day 21

this is only a start, dont start a cycle like this without asking for other peoples opionion.. but it is a good start to research on ! Good luck !

something i decided to add, man you sound like you need to do alot more training before juicing. you sound like a begginer (no offence) and you need to consume more calories and work out harder. i really think you should spend more time working out before considering anabolic steroids .... good luck with your decision !

[956Vette]

Originally posted by gundam675
bro, listen to these guys, when i first came to this board ,they told me to wait afew months and do more research, and i did. and i learned alot. do some more research, winny and test is gay for mass, ill start you off:

this cycle will put lots of mass on, really depends on your caloric intake

week 1 - 10: deca 400mg/ew
week 1 - 8: sustanon 500mg/ew
week 1 - 4: d-bol 40 mg/ed (8 tabs)
week 1 - 6: maybe 25mg proviron /ed
week 3 - 8: novaldex 10mg/ed

2 weeks after deca stack clomid 300mg day 1/ 100mg/ed day 2 - day 11/ 50mg/ed day 12 - day 21

this is only a start, dont start a cycle like this without asking for other peoples opionion.. but it is a good start to research on ! Good luck !

something i decided to add, man you sound like you need to do alot more training before juicing. you sound like a begginer (no offence) and you need to consume more calories and work out harder. i really think you should spend more time working out before considering anabolic steroids.... good luck with your decision !

Sounds like youre a beginner too, no offense. Why would you suggest taking deca longer that sust??? and he should wait 3 weeks after the last inject of deca to begin clomid therapy. And clomid isnt a "stack," either.

[956Vette]

I also dont understand your proviron and nolv use gundam675

[FedSki]

this cycle will put lots of mass on, really depends on your caloric intake

week 1 - 10: deca 400mg/ew
week 1 - 8: sustanon 500mg/ew
week 1 - 4: d-bol 40 mg/ed (8 tabs)
week 1 - 6: maybe 25mg proviron /ed
week 3 - 8: novaldex 10mg/ed

2 weeks after deca stack clomid 300mg day 1/ 100mg/ed day 2 - day 11/ 50mg/ed day 12 - day 21

Yea, I have to agree with Vette - that cycle is a bit iffy. A real mass and bulk building cycle would be . . .

Week 1 - 4 Dbol 30mg ed
Week 1 - 10 Deca 400mg
Week 1 - 10 Sust (or Test Enan) 500mg/ew

Forget the Proviron. Throw some liquidex in there and only start taking Nolva if you have signs of gyno.

[iron4life79]

if your body composition is changing as of now, why use the gear?

keep adding the mass naturally as long as you can. i know you think the juice is an easy way to add the mass you want, but if you know nothing about post cycle supps(clomid,hcg , nolva etc) then youre nowhere near ready bro.
this isnt a flame, just some friendly advice....

peace I4L