Second cycle - Test E and EQ

**dbw1968** · 01-07-2013, 09:44 PM

This will be my secind ever cycle. My first was completed 16 we
eks ago composed of TestE at 500/week. I had very good results with nice gains and Many compliments. I thought I was gonna just do one cycle, but damnit, I kinda liked it too much. I am 44, 5'11'' and 205 with 14 bf. I want to try some EQ to get a little harder look so I was thinking about the following:

Wk 1 - 13 Test E 500/wk
Wk 1 - 12 Equipoise 600/wk
Wk 1 - 14 AI - Liquid Stane 12.5/day
PCT
Wk 15 - 18 Tamox 40/20/20/20
Clomid 100/50/50/50

Please critique this for me. Thanks.

**MickeyKnox** · 01-07-2013, 10:02 PM

I would increase my EQ to about 800 and increase the cycle to 15-16 wks to get the full benefit of EQ. It take a bit to spool up and start working...for me anyway. You could even decrease you test down to 250 and still make nice gains.

**austinite** · 01-07-2013, 10:03 PM

Hey buddy.

I would drop the EQ, you will not be happy with it. Results will mostly be due to test. EQ works at high doses, but unfortunately that comes with terrible sides. Try a different compound, maybe an oral with your test.

Good luck.

**MickeyKnox** · 01-07-2013, 10:04 PM

I would increase my EQ to about 800 and increase the cycle to 15-16 wks to get the full benefit of EQ. It take a bit to spool up and start working...for me anyway. You could even decrease you test down to 250 and still make nice gains.

Im 3 years older than you and currently running 250 EQ EOD and 125 Test E5D. Ive put on about 20lbs. Diet is not great, but not terrible either.

**MickeyKnox** · 01-07-2013, 10:06 PM

Or you can take Austinites advice too. Your call.

**austinite** · 01-07-2013, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

Or you can take Austinites advice too. Your call.

lol. Mickey mickey mickey. How do you hear the word EQ so fast?

**MickeyKnox** · 01-07-2013, 10:07 PM

lol ^^

**MickeyKnox** · 01-07-2013, 10:08 PM

Im like Batman. You shine the EQ light and ill be there..lol

**MuscleInk** · 01-07-2013, 10:11 PM

He has EQ senses that tingle whenever it gets mentioned!!!

**Flawdaboy** · 01-07-2013, 10:11 PM

I agree with austinnite i did EQ on the cycle im on and stopped due to terrible mood swings from it, I even tryed droppin doses and nothing so i stopped it and kept going with my sust. So id drop it aswell but your choice just my oppinion

**dbw1968** · 01-07-2013, 10:16 PM

Well I have already made up my mind to try EQ and already purchaced it. I have heard good things about it, so why do you say to drop it? Mixkey, do you suggest running Test E 1 week longer than EQ?

**austinite** · 01-07-2013, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by dbw1968

Well I have already made up my mind to try EQ and already purchaced it. I have heard good things about it, so why do you say to drop it? Mixkey, do you suggest running Test E 1 week longer than EQ?

Extremely high RBC
Minimal (if any) gains. Most or all gains will be from the test,
Will most likely just make you hungry.

**dbw1968** · 01-07-2013, 10:24 PM

I know the gains will come from Test . I thought I would get more vascular with the Eq. Am I way off?

**MickeyKnox** · 01-07-2013, 10:25 PM

Yes i would run it one week longer. The Undecylenate is actually a long ester than Deca if i recall correctly. But yes, it should ran a wk longer than Enanthate .

**MickeyKnox** · 01-07-2013, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by dbw1968

I know the gains will come from Test . I thought I would get more vascular with the Eq. Am I way off?

If your including it just to get vascular, dont use it - diet.

**dbw1968** · 01-07-2013, 10:30 PM

I guess the only way to find out what works is to actually try it. Everyone's body acts differently and what one loves another hates. I just wish everyone woyld have said EQ is awesome. ha ha.

**dbw1968** · 01-07-2013, 10:33 PM

I guess I was misinformed on my research. I thought the purpose is for a harder, more vascular look. Dang I am confused now.

**MickeyKnox** · 01-07-2013, 10:33 PM

It works for some but not for others. Its really that simple.

Do i recommend it? Nope. Simply because there are waaay too many other compounds to choose from that will produce the same result, if not more, at half the amount (volume + cash)

**dbw1968** · 01-07-2013, 10:38 PM

What would you choose over Eq. I thought you were an advocate for EQ? What do you see as the main advantage of EQ. Remember, I already bought the stuff.

**MickeyKnox** · 01-07-2013, 10:44 PM

Im not necessarily and advocate. But i do defend it because of my personal experience with it and because it gets a bad rap. The truth is, it works. BUT, you must do a LOT of it and for a longer duration.

Ask yourself this question: If you could do another compound using a lot less volume and less $ and end up with similar or same results, would you?

I would recommend something a simple as Test Enanthate and a solid diet over EQ. In fact, almost any other steroid is superior in many ways. BUT, it DOES work. Thats my point.