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    Serm Sides

    There have been some quality threads on serms lately courtesy of Turkish Juicer and others. I came across this at another forum. It was posted by the late Nandi. It addresses the vision related sides of tamoxifen specifically but I would speculate there is probably a case to be made somewhere that clomid is the same. Aparently a simple antioxidant can rduce the occurance of said sides. Gret read:

    Tamoxifen, ocular toxicity, & oxidative stress

    The article linked to below proposes that the ocular damage caused by tamoxifen is due to oxidative stress. The authors suggest that the use of antioxidants may help prevent such damage.

    Exp Biol Med (Maywood). 2004 Jul;229(7):607-15.

    Oxidative stress plays an important role in the pathogenesis of drug-induced retinopathy.

    Toler SM.

    Clinical Safety and Risk Management, Pfizer Inc., Pfizer Global Research and Development, 50 Pequot Avenue, New London, CT 06320. [email protected]

    Several pharmaceutical agents have been associated with rare but serious retinopathies, some resulting in blindness. Little is known of the mechanism(s) that produce these injuries. Mechanisms proposed thus far have not been embraced by the medical and scientific communities. However, preclinical and clinical data indicate that oxidative stress may contribute substantially to iatrogenic retinal disease. Retinal oxidative stress may be precipitated by the interaction of putative retinal toxins with the ocular redox system. The retina, replete with cytochromes P450 and myeloperoxidase, may serve to activate xenobiotics to oxidants, resulting in ocular injury. These activated agents may directly form retinal adducts or may diminish ocular reduced glutathione concentrations. Data are reviewed that suggest that indomethacin, tamoxifen, thioridazine, and chloroquine all produce retinopathies via a common mechanism-they produce ocular oxidative stress

    Full article can be accessed here:

    http://www.ebmonline.org/cgi/content/full/229/7/607

    Originally posted by Nandi

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    thanks jimmi nice post....

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    Run some anti-oxidants with your SERMS. Good read.

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    So that's clomid and nolva could make you blind.

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    Nice reading! Well done

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