1st cycle questions

**damiongage** · 05-09-2003, 09:18 PM

lets start by stating this cycle is still a couple of months out
cuz i want to shed another 30 lbs yet.

stats= 28yrs
5'8"
240lbs down from 300,start cycle at 21o

my first thoughts were 1-4 35mg dbol ed
1-10 400mg deca ew
1-10 500mg test depot ew

clomid 3wks after last shot @300/1day,100/10days,50/10days

my concerns are sides mainly from deca

1. can I run nolva thruoghout cycle without hurtng it?
2. should I add liquidex @.25mg day?
3. because the deca sides are what concern me the most,
and this is my first cycle should I consider a dbol/test or
a test only cycle?
4. If I do run a test only cycle should I run it @750mg/wk
or keep it at 500?
5. How long can I keep my gear befor it goes bad?(i.e. my cycle
is a few months out,should i start to stock up now or wait?)

Thanks for your help

**damiongage** · 05-10-2003, 02:24 PM

24 views and no replys???

**956Vette** · 05-10-2003, 02:33 PM

a test only cycle would be okay for your first cycle. Depending on what type you chose to take effects the dosage.
But if you would want to do either enth, cyp, or sust, run them for around 10 weeks at 500mg/wk.

Gear has exp dates on them, depending on what you find, they can range from expiring in a year, or 5 years.

***JohnnyB*** · 05-10-2003, 06:58 PM

I agree test at 400-500mg a week for your first

JohnnyB

**damiongage** · 05-11-2003, 07:42 AM

the test i can get is testoviron depot 250. I was going to shoot
on mon. & thur. but then I would be wasting the prop right?

I dont want to try to shoot .66cc 3 time a wk or eod so thats why
I was thiking 750mg/wk for ease of spliting it up. If I was going t run deca with this I would be at 900mg a week anyways.

Am I way off???

new cycle wk 1-4 35mg dbol ed
wk 1-12 test depot 500mg wk

questions:

1. does anyone think 750mg test depot a week is a good idea?

2. should run liquidex?

3. clomid 2 or 3 weeks after last shoot?

4. should I have nolva on hand, if s how much?

**956Vette** · 05-11-2003, 09:58 AM

Originally posted by damiongage
the test i can get is testoviron depot 250. I was going to shoot
on mon. & thur. but then I would be wasting the prop right?

From my understanding, that is enanthate . Not sust that youre thinking of.

Correct me if i am wrong

**damiongage** · 05-11-2003, 12:43 PM

testoviron depot 250= 200mg eth + 50mg prop

**damiongage** · 05-11-2003, 08:27 PM

bump for more comments

**damiongage** · 05-13-2003, 02:28 PM

can anyone answere my questions?

**BigGreen** · 05-13-2003, 03:36 PM

I don't mean to imply that you aren't being specific, as these are the type of informed newbie questions I would say most regulars don't mind answering, as they demonstrate your research and understanding (i'm particularly impressed by your patience and recognition that you need to drop weight first...that's rare here nowadays from the new crowd), but, what "deca sides" specifically are you concerned about? If it's deca gyno (if it even truly exists as per mmaximus' thread) than nolva doesn't help. If it's the fact it shuts you down pretty damn hard, I'm not aware of anything that can really alleviate that (maybe mitigate it...but it's harsh any way you cut it) and so on and so on.

As far as a few of the other questions go: I'll second, third and fourth everyone else's suggestion to keep the test at 500mg. With regards to stocking up, run a search on gear going bad, I want to say that someone had a nice thread going a while back concerning not only how to potentially extend expiration dates, but how "set in stone" they actually were from brand to brand...I hope I'm recalling this correctly.

**damiongage** · 05-14-2003, 04:16 PM

yes gyno is my main worry. I'm married so being shut down is not a
worry as my wife will probally appreciate it!!!

so I guess I'll stay with my original plan

thanks for comments