Thread: How do a make my buddy stop?!
12-05-2001, 06:08 PM #1
How do I make my buddy stop?!
Guys, you have to give me advice. A close friend of mine has been on AS for over 7 months in a row, notice 7 MONTHS not WEEKS and he has no plans on stepping off. I've tried to talk reason with the guy but he won't listen. What to do? Has anyone experiences of such long cycles? What are the sideeffects? Please don't answer "liver can go bad" or "kidneys can go bad", that I know. I need true facts. HOW bad is it for the diffrent organs more specific? I'm guessing that his body doesn't respond to the AS any more and that's why he has stopped growing, and this makes him depressed, so he takes higher dosages all the time. I'm not sure what the dosage or gear he is on for the moment but that is besides the point. Please VETs and other knowledgeable people, give me some good answers so I can convince him to step off.
Last edited by Swedeboy; 12-05-2001 at 06:17 PM.
12-05-2001, 06:17 PM #2
I DONT THINK YOU CANT....
ONCE SOMEONE HAS THEIR MIND MADE UP THEY'RE GONNA DO WHATEVER THEY WANT.YOU CAN PREACH, SHOW ARTICLES, OR EVEN SHOW HIM SOME DISCUSSION BOARDS.....HE SOUNDS LIKE A HEAD STRONG PERSON.....AS FAR AS THE SIDE EFFECTS__I'LL LEAVE THE VETS TO ANSWER THAT ONE....BUT PROPS TO YOU FOR LOOKING OUT FOR YOUR BUD
12-05-2001, 07:10 PM #3Associate Member
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Take his gear and use it. That should teach him a lesson.
12-05-2001, 07:24 PM #4
I think the main 2 points you have to make when talking to him (not arguing with him) is # 1: the fact that he has to take more and more of a product to see minimal results, because like anything else your body gets used to it, so it will get more and more expensive. # 2: The side effects (liver values, gynecomastia , acne vulgaris, etc.) increase exponentially over time and the risk/reward ratio is completely stupid. When talking to him speak from experience and sound semi-intelligent and just let him know that he can take a short break, get his endogenous testosterone (his own test) and start again after awhile. Tell him he will see a hell of a lot more gains if his body wasnt used to it. I dont know man I hope this helps but he sounds addicted.
12-05-2001, 07:25 PM #5Associate Member
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Taking his gear and using it could just set him off!!
12-05-2001, 08:25 PM #6
Man, take his shit and hide it. He got to stop or his liver will get messed up really bad.
12-05-2001, 08:38 PM #7
Take his shit hell! He doesn't sound too stable, that is a severe disorder that he's developed, setting him off wouldn't be too smart. I think that you might end up on this thread if you do:
12-05-2001, 08:39 PM #8
I can see the headlines now:
When Juicers Attack II
12-05-2001, 10:56 PM #9
TNT, where are you...I'm callin you out.
12-06-2001, 09:32 AM #10
Approach your friend in a positive way not a negative way. Get him on the boards to research. Tell him how much bigger he would get doing it the right way. He is turning himself into a bitch - in that his own natural test production will be completely shut down for good and he will have to stay on the AAS at higher dosages to keep the same results.
Tell him to get off for 1 month and then go back on. The next time maybe he will stay off longer. Let him know about brigdeing with insulin and HGH. There are lots of options that will increase his gains while keeping him alive.
Most important get him on the boards. Tell him to look in the mirror and then ask some of the guys here for pics. If that does not convince him nothing will.
12-06-2001, 09:39 AM #11
I have been on, for about 2 years no breaks, if he is cycling in and out the harsh stuff like orals, and doses up and down he should be fine. Just get him to get blood work done every 6 months or so. Also good idea to take about 10000ius of HGC every 8-12 weeks to keep nuts around. Also important to take anti-E i think. Your receptors do not downgrade with long term use, in fact you end up with more and better receptors from long term use. It just you don't respond the same way after your 1st cycle because your closer to you gentic max. I have good article on Receptors and long term use, will see if i can find it and post.
12-06-2001, 10:04 AM #12Mike Guest
Your friend is going to die.
12-06-2001, 10:38 AM #13
Eyecandy. For your sake I hope you are right. But, I do not believe you should try convince others it is safe.
12-06-2001, 11:50 AM #14
If been on long cycles of years and no problems.
12-06-2001, 11:51 AM #15
Don't take it that way
Not trying to tell ppl it's a good idea, just telling them what i am doing and far all my blood work has been fine. I have certain goals i want to reach and bit of necessary evil. My point was only if he is going to stay on all the time, there and things he should do to keep as healthy as he can.
Mike... he going to die...LOL...... good advice brother...
Last edited by silverfox; 12-06-2001 at 11:53 AM.
12-06-2001, 11:56 AM #16Mike Guest
LOL well he wanted something that was going to scare his friend out of a long and uneducated cycle - there it is
12-06-2001, 11:59 AM #17
Should add in his nuts will shrink to nothing, dick may fall of and be limp forever.... will need a bra for bitch tit's, zits everywhere, i miss anything? O ya, roid rage ... he will probably end up killing someone and posing in gay porn...LOL
12-06-2001, 12:07 PM #18Mike Guest
in that order?!
12-06-2001, 12:11 PM #19Respected Member
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i love it the-juice
I would go with this one
THE JU-ICE - Take his gear and use it. That should teach him a lesson.
12-06-2001, 12:24 PM #20
Back to the original Q;
I have a friend who took way too much juice for way too much time. Now he's paying for it. He's been off for 6 months and his body is all fucked up. He pukes 4 times a week from no reason (fucked up liver). His chest looks like a cheese pizza it'a all read and has huge zits on it. When he tries to pop them, puss and some kind of oil come out. It's fucken grosse. He's fucked up really bad. This same thing might happen to your friend if you don't hurry up.
12-06-2001, 12:51 PM #21
That's pretty sick...cheese pizza? Who the hell likes just plain ol cheese pizza? At least put some pepperoni on it!
12-06-2001, 03:04 PM #22Junior Member
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".... will need a bra for bitch tit's, zits everywhere, i miss anything? O ya, roid rage ... he will probably end up killing someone and posing in gay porn...LOL"
I needed a good laugh today Bro. That on got my GF in here wondering what was up...Especially the Gay Porn...LMFAO
12-06-2001, 04:46 PM #23
That was good G, but the scary part is that he looked like that (red chest 95% covered with big zits with oil and puss in them)
02-19-2005, 09:48 PM #24Member
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theres a lot of people out there who use injectibles year round, and come off fine... (whose to say that it may not cause problems for them later on in life)
i'd be most conscerned if he were taking orals for 7 monthes
THAT would be bad
7monthes is long but its not the worst ive heard
just make sure he doesnt exceed a year
that could be bad
02-19-2005, 09:49 PM #25
why did you bump a thread 4 years old?
02-19-2005, 11:54 PM #26
Bro, i did the whole 7 months thing HARDCORE 1500mg of test a week type of thing. I met a friend that was doing the same with no sides, no problems. Then i began...around my 4th month i had made the biggest gains ever. Now i'm not gonna lie i was on top of the world around this time i had gained INCREDIBLE SIZE and if i had to choose which cycle it would be that made me, it was definately this one. I went from 400mg of CYP to running omnas then back to cyp/prop at 1500mg a week, 50mg dbols a day...lets just say i went nuts no holds barred. Now like i said earlier i made spectacular gains but.......after i just broke out horriblly. I dealt with bad acne for almost a year after i came off. I'm talking about huge red bumps all over my body not even my face. I live in miami so its basically summer time all the time and last spring i went to the beach because my EX GF begged and begged for me to go that she didnt care about them so i went with her, her friends and my close buddies. Need to say, EVERYONE i knew was at the beach tht day and EVERYONE saw how i hessitated to take off my shirt. I said what the hell **** these little pansies i'm diesel. I didn't feel too diesel when for months straight i had people talking about my bad acne. Luckily its almost a year and im cleared right up. Best thing i did was come off for a few months and got back on took some meds and im good to go. Incredibly my friend is still not off after about 2 years and has NO ACNE. we are all just not the same. I'm sure that i could cycle year round again but not at the insane doses i was taking i could basically say that was me experimenting with my own body and i paid for it a year later. This year im going to the beach to show everyone from last year that not only am i bigger but **** i'm clear and good looking LOL
02-20-2005, 12:04 AM #27
Attention: The thread is 4 years old!!!!!!!!!
03-08-2005, 02:52 AM #28Originally Posted by bdtr
03-08-2005, 03:03 AM #29
my workout partner just told me about his budy who is 18.
This guy is abusing AS really bad.
His piss is brown and he brags about it, and the fact that his nuts are the size of raisins.
The guy wants to be a pro. I told my buddy to talk some sense into him or else he wont get to be old enough to see the pros.
I think people like that need professional help.
Its just like drug and alcohol addiction.
03-08-2005, 03:11 AM #30Originally Posted by bdtr
03-08-2005, 11:05 AM #31
03-08-2005, 11:06 AM #32
Originally Posted by legobricks
03-08-2005, 11:09 AM #33Swellin GuestOriginally Posted by bdtr
03-09-2005, 02:19 PM #34
No dont do that!! j/k, it was a joke bdtr, dont bump it
03-09-2005, 03:12 PM #35
Haha, this thread has made me laugh some with some info about longer cycles... I havn't cycled anything for longer than 3-4months...
03-09-2005, 03:29 PM #36New Member
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He's probably bigger than you. He's a grown man who cares?
03-09-2005, 03:32 PM #37Originally Posted by Swedeboy
you can accompany him by going to the doctor
to have his liver values checked
if his liver values come back good
let him continue his healthy cycle
it cant be un healthy if his liver value are nice n normal
03-13-2005, 08:52 PM #38
4 year old post,haha
It was a good read though
10-02-2005, 05:14 PM #39Banned
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10-02-2005, 05:26 PM #40
There are some good 4yr old threads that should be dug up.. this is not one of them
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