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    Clen, t3, ephedrine, caffeine, and aspirin?

    Anything wrong with using all of these at once?

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    Yes, that would be completely reckless way of abusing those substances and would make your life miserable plus probably damage your health

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    You could, but Id have beta blocker on hand. I wouldnt do it personally. T3/clen or ECA/T3 would be it for me. Pretty sure that clen and ephederine usedifferent receptors, but I still thinkthat is too much of a bad thing to be honest.

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    Some people recommend ECA when in the OFF weeks of clen - but they will both strain the CNS.

    And forget T3 without being "ON".

    EDIT: IMO - I'd run clen only for 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off for 2-3 cycles....and see if the ECA is even necessary.
    Most likely you will reach your goal BF% without ECA with proper diet & training.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProStatus
    Some people recommend ECA when in the OFF weeks of clen - but they will both strain the CNS.

    And forget T3 without being "ON".
    I read somewhere that this was pointless because the clen and ECA stack saturate the same receptors therefore the ECA is counter productive.

    Agree on the T3 without being on cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsiv View Post
    I read somewhere that this was pointless because the clen and ECA stack saturate the same receptors therefore the ECA is counter productive.

    Agree on the T3 without being on cycle
    Yeah - One or the other. At the right dosage there is no need whatsoever for both Clen and ECA. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProStatus

    Yeah - One or the other. At the right dosage there is no need whatsoever for both Clen and ECA. lol
    Never done ECA I'm on clen now and loving it

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsiv View Post
    Never done ECA I'm on clen now and loving it
    Cheers to being LEAN this summer.

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    Lol cheers

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    Ok, think ill go with Clen , t3, morning coffee as usual for 4 weeks or so then off for two. I'll have to do that twice for my contest prep.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by gymfu
    Ok, think ill go with Clen , t3, morning coffee as usual for 4 weeks or so then off for two. I'll have to do that twice for my contest prep.

    Thanks
    Good luck gymfu !

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    Quote Originally Posted by gymfu View Post
    Ok, think ill go with Clen , t3, morning coffee as usual for 4 weeks or so then off for two. I'll have to do that twice for my contest prep.

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    If this is for a contest, you might look into supplementing "ketotifen".
    Supplementing this will help you be able to run clen longer due to the up-regulation of beta 2 receptors.

    I normally would not advise this to average joe-schmo because it is generally not necessary - but you are in competition & looking for the absolute best edge/results & on a time crunch.
    Something worth looking into anyways. Hope this helps & good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProStatus View Post
    If this is for a contest, you might look into supplementing "ketotifen".
    Supplementing this will help you be able to run clen longer due to the up-regulation of beta 2 receptors.

    I normally would not advise this to average joe-schmo because it is generally not necessary - but you are in competition & looking for the absolute best edge/results & on a time crunch.
    Something worth looking into anyways. Hope this helps & good luck!
    Cool, works better then Benadryl?

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    Ketotifen is specifically for up-regulating those b-2 receptors...
    So yes, definitely better than benadryl.
    Ketotifen is available at AR-R .
    Not uncommon to see Clen , T3, and Keto all combined for wicked fat loss.
    Best of luck in the contest brah - keep us posted!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProStatus View Post
    Ketotifen is specifically for up-regulating those b-2 receptors...
    So yes, definitely better than benadryl.
    Ketotifen is available at AR-R .
    Not uncommon to see Clen , T3, and Keto all combined for wicked fat loss.
    Best of luck in the contest brah - keep us posted!
    This is great info. I love using clen and keto together. I can run it longer at an elevated level of effectiveness and I get no sides associated with the clen. Great combo IMO

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    Clen /T3/Keto is a great combo alone or with HGH/Test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gymfu View Post
    Anything wrong with using all of these at once?
    nope nothing wrong at all, i done it a couple times to make weight

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanB View Post
    nope nothing wrong at all, i done it a couple times to make weight
    Awe.....I knew someone here had tried it.

    So no problems?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gymfu View Post
    Awe.....I knew someone here had tried it.

    So no problems?
    Clen /T3/Keto for 4-6 weeks straight.
    Highly unlikely you'll still need the ECA - as I think you'll be extremely impressed after only 2 weeks!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProStatus View Post
    Clen /T3/Keto for 4-6 weeks straight.
    Highly unlikely you'll still need the ECA - as I think you'll be extremely impressed after only 2 weeks!!!
    How much keto do you recommend?

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    Start at 1 mg before bed Ed, sometimes you may need more. I have taken up to 3 mg Ed.

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    I've always hot the clen at 120mcg ~ and keto 1mg before bed. Works really well

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    Quote Originally Posted by gymfu View Post
    Awe.....I knew someone here had tried it.

    So no problems?
    wired from excessive ephedrine and slight case of shakes, nothing that effect quality of life, serious sleep problems but i have that 365days so cant blame the eca/clen on that, 2mg keto pre bed apperantly works well to sleep for majority of people

    splitting clen dose helped with shakes, if you have a problem with it then try splitting 3-4x's a day

    burning up all day long but thats sign it working, increased body temp etc as you prob already know

    so sum it up, no ill effects that would stop me from running the same in future
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    I read a paper that stated ECA (ephedrine, caffeine, aspirin) stack would increase the body metabolism by about 3% to 4%. Clen on the other hand would increase the body metabolism by 8% to 9%. Both of these compounds would down grade the same beta receptors so we should pick one or the other. T3 on the other hand works on a whole different system. I have stackes ECA/T4 (not t3) and Clen/T4 while I was on HGH. I saw more dramatic results on the Clen/T4/HGH stack over the ECA/T4/HGH stack. I do take ECA sometimes when want to "wake up" during the day since I don't drink coffee. One thing I do notice about both the ECA and Clen is that it makes my prostate swell up. Like I'm this muscular old dude that dribbling pee everywhere. LOL, dang sucks to get old.

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    F'n love clen , only side I couldn't hack was the acid reflux...tore my stromach up something nasty. I have always run T3 and clen at different times and never together. That may be the icing on end of this cycle.....clen/T3/keto.

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    Cool thanks guys

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    terrible idea. id be sketched to even use clen and t3. personally t3 and EC is enough for me. I don't even use EC all the time because that + t3 and tren already gets the blood pressure up. I hate clen. Used it once, terrible anxiety, felt like I was dying. Very nasty stuff imo.
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    Hi,

    Ive been taking a break from all supplements for awhile now. However, after a blood test my testosterone is low - and dr put me on HGH, and cream

    I have Clen already here (just cause :-) What is the T4 stack - what dosage would you recommend?

    I'm looking for a great kick start to a new me. I'm 21% body fat, 5 9, 150pounds.

    Much appreciated

    Sav

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    Quote Originally Posted by oz1971 View Post
    Hi,

    Ive been taking a break from all supplements for awhile now. However, after a blood test my testosterone is low - and dr put me on HGH, and cream

    I have Clen already here (just cause :-) What is the T4 stack - what dosage would you recommend?

    I'm looking for a great kick start to a new me. I'm 21% body fat, 5 9, 150pounds.

    Much appreciated

    Sav
    being 150lbs and 21% bodyfat you are seriously out of shape. Train naturally with the weights, get diet in check, and do some cardio.

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    the doctor put youon hgh, and cream? wtf.?????

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    Sry buddy... Too light too high bodyfat... Do not worth the risk...

    Clen can be very harsh... It greatly raise the blood pressure and the hearh beat... If you already have one of does taking clen may be pretty dangerous...

    + at 21% the effect will be minimal... Clen is great under 15% a.d lower you are better it gets...

    You should just go and training and nutrition section to get a diet and training dialed in and you will be good to go...
    The result will come fast enought... No need to risk anything...

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    Quote Originally Posted by qscgugcsq View Post
    Sry buddy... Too light too high bodyfat... Do not worth the risk...

    Clen can be very harsh... It greatly raise the blood pressure and the hearh beat... If you already have one of does taking clen may be pretty dangerous...

    + at 21% the effect will be minimal... Clen is great under 15% a.d lower you are better it gets...

    You should just go and training and nutrition section to get a diet and training dialed in and you will be good to go...
    The result will come fast enought... No need to risk anything...
    Correct

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    Thanks for the advice.

    After 2 months on Clen I have seen 0 effect. Infact I am putting on weight! I was just about to order more online but I will wait till I get my diet in order and train more consistently.

    I will do just fat burners for now that have an app supp.

    Still on HGH and testos cream

    I'll stop the t3 too. Obviously that is not helping :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by oz1971 View Post
    Hi,

    Ive been taking a break from all supplements for awhile now. However, after a blood test my testosterone is low - and dr put me on HGH, and cream

    I have Clen already here (just cause :-) What is the T4 stack - what dosage would you recommend?

    I'm looking for a great kick start to a new me. I'm 21% body fat, 5 9, 150pounds.

    Much appreciated

    Sav
    Quote Originally Posted by bradhore View Post
    being 150lbs and 21% bodyfat you are seriously out of shape. Train naturally with the weights, get diet in check, and do some cardio.
    Quote Originally Posted by qscgugcsq View Post
    Sry buddy... Too light too high bodyfat... Do not worth the risk...

    Clen can be very harsh... It greatly raise the blood pressure and the hearh beat... If you already have one of does taking clen may be pretty dangerous...

    + at 21% the effect will be minimal... Clen is great under 15% a.d lower you are better it gets...

    You should just go and training and nutrition section to get a diet and training dialed in and you will be good to go...
    The result will come fast enought... No need to risk anything...
    oz are u female which would greatly change your stats?

    oz i would suggest starting a thread in the nutrition section..

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<--- View Post
    oz are u female which would greatly change your stats?

    oz i would suggest starting a thread in the nutrition section..

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    I noticed the pink, too... Side from 21% being a bit on the high side 5'9'' 150lbs isn't that out of shape for a female, in fact youre probably pretty strong just carrying a bit more fat than you should be to go on clen etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oz1971 View Post
    Thanks for the advice.

    After 2 months on Clen I have seen 0 effect. Infact I am putting on weight! I was just about to order more online but I will wait till I get my diet in order and train more consistently.

    I will do just fat burners for now that have an app supp.

    Still on HGH and testos cream

    I'll stop the t3 too. Obviously that is not helping :-)
    I'm confused. Youre female but your doc put you on androgel and HGH?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Java Man View Post
    I'm confused. Youre female but your doc put you on androgel and HGH?
    it is a bit confusing which is why she/he should start their own thread in the nutrition section. females do get on TRT or HRT and im unsure of the HGH but i would think that is possible too.. maybe not androgel but i dont know if thats the same as testos cream? if she is a male she (he?? LOL) should definitely change colors..

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    Yea Clen is a waste of money if diet isn't right.

    Maybe he/she meant hcg ? Not HGH.

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