Can you overtrain on steroids ?????

[flyguy6661]

Okay so I know you can't train arms everyday etc when on AAS but can you train say 6 times a week no problem ?? Say upper body twice then lower body once, for example
Monday: chest & tris
Tuesday: back & bi's
Wednesday: legs
Thursday: delts & traps
Friday: tri's & bi's & forearms
Saterday: legs
Sunday: rest !
Each session about 60-70 minutes, my aim is to add at least 1 inch around arms as they really struggle to gain size !! Cycle is 650mg test & 700mg deca

[justo]

Okay so I know you can't train arms everyday etc when on AAS but can you train say 6 times a week no problem ?? Say upper body twice then lower body once, for example
Monday: chest & tris
Tuesday: back & bi's
Wednesday: legs
Thursday: delts & traps
Friday: tri's & bi's & forearms
Saterday: legs
Sunday: rest !
Each session about 60-70 minutes, my aim is to add at least 1 inch around arms as they really struggle to gain size !! Cycle is 650mg test & 700mg deca

Ur 21 and doing 650mg of test and 700mg of deca and don't even know how to set a routine out properly? Stay away from roids till you gain maximum natty muscle. What's your weight height and bf?

[flyguy6661]

I'm not 21 I'm 24, as for the programme what's wrong with it as I fail to see Thers anything wrong there ???

[baseline_9]

Okay so I know you can't train arms everyday etc when on AAS but can you train say 6 times a week no problem ?? Say upper body twice then lower body once, for example
Monday: chest & tris
Tuesday: back & bi's
Wednesday: legs
Thursday: delts & traps
Friday: tri's & bi's & forearms
Saterday: legs
Sunday: rest !
Each session about 60-70 minutes, my aim is to add at least 1 inch around arms as they really struggle to gain size !! Cycle is 650mg test & 700mg deca

The split you have posted is not too terrible.... However without the nuts and bolt who can say....

Look into a PHAT routine.... Google it....

And I would do 3on 1off 2on 1off...... Or what I'm currently doing 3on 1off.... My current split it below


Lower Body Power
Push Power
Pull Power
Rest
Lower Body Hypertrophy
Push Hypertrophy
Pull Hypertrophy
Rest
Repeat.....

[flyguy6661]

Il tell you what that is a good idea having a day for power and a day for hypertrophy, may look into it as my aim is for strength and size. Although do you not think it to be better doing upper body day 1 lower body day 2 and then upper body again day 3 just to give the upper body a rest ? Also I can include arms with each push and pull session yea ?

[Permabulk]

Ur 21 and doing 650mg of test and 700mg of deca and don't even know how to set a routine out properly? Stay away from roids till you gain maximum natty muscle. What's your weight height and bf?

This^ I demand stats. That's a lot of gear for the questions your asking, man. Yes, you can overtrain on AAS. If your diet and rest is in check then it's harder than you might think, but different for everyone. I feel like you isolating your arms twice a week is over kill though. They take a beating as it is if you are training hard enough, IMO

[baseline_9]

Il tell you what that is a good idea having a day for power and a day for hypertrophy, may look into it as my aim is for strength and size. Although do you not think it to be better doing upper body day 1 lower body day 2 and then upper body again day 3 just to give the upper body a rest ? Also I can include arms with each push and pull session yea ?

You can do the route however you want.... That's not too important...

What's important is that it's a non linear periodization program.... And that you do not train to complete failure.... Instead leave a rep in the tank for ALL sets....

[Turkish Juicer]

Yes, you can most certainly over-train on steroids and on any other non-steroidal muscle-building compound ever present, such as the peptides BB community often employs. Plain and simple.

[baseline_9]

Overtraining is a state where the CNS is 'beaten up'.... If you have been working way too hard with too much intensity and volume for an extended period of time there 'may' be some CNS 'suppression'..... However this is pretty much bullshit..

The whole idea of overtraining has come about via the Supplement industry and magazines to make you buy product.... As have most of the other Bro-Science methodologies taken as gospel in this industry...... No supplies there....

[Turkish Juicer]

^^^ Why are you even bringing up the issue of CNS suppression into this discussion?

You can over-train a muscle group if you submit it to hypertrophy again before it is fully recovered, plain and simple.

No rocket science here.

[bradhore]

everyone reacts differently.

Most pro bodybuilders do set muscles on set days, 5/6 days a week, and give them 7 days rest..

[vladan]

Not all workouts are for everyone.The training will depend on how advance you are, the biggest mistake of most people is to get a workout from a guy is above your category of training. Over training is real and takes a few months on some cases to get back into a good physical condition after over training.

[Buster Brown]

Training goals need to be realistic. I think the op wrote up a killer work out. The question is if he can recuperate enough to make it beneficial. If he has a physical job then he is really going to be put to task. For me one muscle group trained once a week is fine.....gear or no gear. Remember, you grow outside of the gym.

[bradhore]

Training goals need to be realistic. I think the op wrote up a killer work out. The question is if he can recuperate enough to make it beneficial. If he has a physical job then he is really going to be put to task. For me one muscle group trained once a week is fine.....gear or no gear. Remember, you grow outside of the gym.

You grow outside of the gym yes, but it all counts as to what you do to your muscles in the gym that counts

[austinite]

I grow in the gym. Until my pump deflates.

[baseline_9]

^^^ Why are you even bringing up the issue of CNS suppression into this discussion?

You can over-train a muscle group if you submit it to hypertrophy again before it is fully recovered, plain and simple.

No rocket science here.

Define overtraining..... And then prove that it exists

[vladan]

Sergio Oliva a bodybuilder known as "The Myth" was working 10-12 hour days at the steel mill and putting in another 2–3 hours at the gym. Whether he knew of the term "over training" or it was an irregular genetics and insane commitment to training.

[austinite]

Define overtraining..... And then prove that it exists

Would you accept a study done on horses?

[baseline_9]

And I brought up CNS suppression because that is what people are referring to when they talk about overtraining.....

Overtraining is possible but its not going to happen in a week..... It is something that is cumulative and adds up over extended periods of time......

But I suppose it depends what one means by overtraining.... The term is used loosely

[bradhore]

I only train 45mins to an hour per muscle. But what i do within that time i feel is more than adequate and after that period of time i feel as though i cant do anymore

[austinite]

I only train 45mins to an hour per muscle. But what i do within that time i feel is more than adequate and after that period of time i feel as though i cant do anymore

OMG. Do you take a lunch break in between???

[vladan]

^^^ Why are you even bringing up the issue of CNS suppression into this discussion?

You can over-train a muscle group if you submit it to hypertrophy again before it is fully recovered, plain and simple.

No rocket science here.

At my age, (46) overtraining is a very real and needs to be avoided. I always take at least 2 rest days a week. The worst mistake is holding the program of an advanced lifter when you're still beginner or intermediate. It's not about how much you lift or what you do that defines beginner, intermediate or advanced its how quickly you can recover from the stressors training places on your body. A beginner usually recovers in 24-48 hrs, and intermediate may take a week to fully recover, and advanced lifters can take a month or more to recover from the stress placed that's necessary to drive progression.

[bradhore]

OMG. Do you take a lunch break in between???

Im honestly exhausted after an hour. Especially on low carbs? Less is more

[frank13]

over training is bullshit

How do You know if you are Over training? | It's Myth | State of Mentality [thedailydetermined.com] - YouTube

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[Live for the PUMP]

I like your split OP. Not a big fan of Back and Legs back to back though. There is a point of over-training. What you have suggested isn't over-training. I use to work out six days religiously. Now I am down to 4-5 a week. Just cant hang like I could in my twenties.

[austinite]

*******

[bradhore]

Why is it bad to overtrain ??

[austinite]

Because you get tired and workouts become increasingly ineffective.

[bradhore]

Because you get tired and workouts become increasingly ineffective.

Yeah hence why i only train for upto an hour! Anything more than that and i start to lift less, therefor because pointless training past that point

[bradhore]

Because you get tired and workouts become increasingly ineffective.

Who is the women in ur avatar

[austinite]

Yeah hence why i only train for upto an hour! Anything more than that and i start to lift less, therefor because pointless training past that point

Well, you didnt make that very clear earlier, lol. I misunderstood. When you said 45 minutes to a muscle, that would be an hour and a half for Chest/Tri day for example.

[austinite]

Who is the women in ur avatar

My mom, why?

[bigdicklittleballs]

Like the others above said. As a beginner, your workout schedule is probably not the biggest thing you need to worry about. Diet and fuel are equally if not more important at the beginning. I do question how you came up with your AAS dosages. Seems like a lot of gear if you're just starting out.

As for over training, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Over training is usually only seen in very elite athletes. Over training is not an easy thing to do.

[Doom44]

My mom, why?

Hahaha your mom? I don't even know she got a child already. Lol

[EKFitness]

screw all you overtraining bitches. just excuses for laziness!

bust your ass work hard and you'll see results.

[< <Samson> >]

Over training - Just like anything else, you will hit a plateau.

I am trying to avoid it myself. Been hitting the gym 6 days a week for over a month. Right about an hour each time. A little longer if I throw in cardio.

Even on the sauce that I am on I feel beat up. I am going back to 4-5 days a week with an extra day of cardio.


Over training exists, not in a life threatening sort of way in most cases. But, it just stops progress.

[AlinSR]

My mom, why?

God would I love to have a mom like yours!

[AlinSR]

I train 7 days a week and only take a day off when I get sick.

[havanakid]

"there aint no mothaf#@k&ng such thing as overtraining" Ct Fletcher lmao

[OnTheSauce]

"there aint no mothaf#@k&ng such thing as overtraining" Ct Fletcher lmao

I like the sound of this