Thread: Vials.
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05-24-2013, 09:04 AM #1Associate Member
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Vials.
Sorry if this is a stupid question and been asked before.
How do you convert mg, to ml, to cc. Can a vial be re used, ie how many doses in a vial if using 250 mg a time, how is it stored, what about contamination once you have pierced the cap with a needle. Dickster.
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05-24-2013, 09:11 AM #2Banned
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Very stupid question. Cc is the same thing as a ml. The mg is the strength of the compound. How shots it has is completely dose dependent. And basic math will tell u how many shots it will have.
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05-24-2013, 09:13 AM #3
Ml = cc
Mg per ml should be on the product
Vials are cheap. But a new sterile one
Again, it should say how many mg per ml. And how many ml are present. Usually 10
As far as dosage, it depends on your cycle. Vial could be anywhere from 5-15 doses who knows.
You have to pierce the topper or you don't get the gear. It's not unsanitary after poked once if you're sterilizing the too every time. What would be the point of multi dose vials then?
You sound way too noob what are your stats
Age
Weight
Height
Bf%
Training history
Cycle experience
Goals
Proposed cycle?
Dosages
Weeks
AI
Pct
HCG
Etc
Give us something to work with please
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05-24-2013, 09:15 AM #4Originally Posted by dickster
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Thanks, but if you don't ask.
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Thank you, I am new to AS.
I am 53 been lifting for over 20 years.
Stated out at 138 lbs, now 182, with too much body fat, 20% so addressing that before starting cycle.
I have been around people on As but as you say my knowledge is limited, but it is not 0, I used tbol some 10 years ago minimal dose only 30 mg a day for 5 weeks, I had reasonably good results, maybe because I was virgin to AS. The best thing was the wellbeing feeling that came with them, the ability to train harder. They did take three weeks to kick in but I seemed to gain for weeks after stopping and kept the strength for months after.
The reason I feel right for a test only cycle now is at 53 everything is slowing down, tiredness and recovery is more of a problem. In the early years I done all the shakes, and health potions costing me thousands. I have done every routine possible, super sets, 5x5, high intensity, triples, negatives all for not much profit, in the last 10 years I concentrated on mostly compound excercises
5-8 reps 3-5 sets, deads, squats, rows, presses, chins, with a bit of arms, these have given the best results for me. I have not jumped into AS use overnight, and if would have sourced out this kind of info years ago I may well have stared earlier, I want to stay safe and healthy, which is why I am seeking answers to as many questions as possible from guys that are knowledgable.
I no there are horror stories from people abusing, not getting the right advice, I don't want to fall into that trap, regard Dickster.
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05-24-2013, 11:11 AM #9Associate Member
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Hi, thanks for the kind words, I was thinking of test e, 200 to 250 mg twice weekly, for 8 to 10 weeks, followed by 2 to 3 weeks clomid 50,30,10, and the same with nolvadex , thinking of saw-plamento ? and liv 52 just to try and keep as healthy as possible.
I am a bit overweight and could do with reducing body fat 20% want to loose 10lb before starting. The reason for the original Q, was b/cause I have never seen a vial, I have known guy who have used AS, but it is not good to bombard people with question in th gym environment, just looking for good advice. THank you, DIckster.
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05-24-2013, 11:15 AM #10Associate Member
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Oh yes forgot, I have slightly high blood pressure 140/90, been recommended Calais .?
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Hi,
Age 53
Weight 182 lbs (stated at 138 not genetically gifted)
Height 5 9
Training for 20 years plus.
Body fat 20% most of which has arrived since hitting 50 will loose 10 lbs before starting any cycle.
Used tbol 10 years ago at minimal doses but gained well, used nolvadex and liv 52 for pct. one cycle only.
Have slightly high bp 140/90.
Training these days in mainly compound exercises, squats, dead lifts, cleans, rows and presses, some separate arm work but not too much, chins, I have found that I have gained better on this regime over the past few years, I mix it up by working out 3/4 times a week 3-4 exercises 5-8 reps, no more than 15 sets, on occasions I will do a 6 day routine one body part a day. Cardio is jogging (slow) maybe 3 miles a couple of times a week, I also cycle 40 miles a week.
I have read a lot on the subject over the years but never held a pin or a vial in my hand.
Thinking of test e, 200-250 mg per week for10 weeks.
Pct of clomid for 3 weeks 50,30,10 same with nolvadex, saw plamento and liv 52, also been advised to take Calais for blood pressure. Thank you Dickster.
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05-24-2013, 11:40 AM #12Originally Posted by dickster
8-10 weeks isn't unheard of, but most people will recommend 12 weeks as a standard protocol for test-E.
PCT is generally run for four weeks. Are you considering any form of testosterone treatment post cycle? I don't know your medical hx but if your natural T levels are low due to age, another alternative might simply be a long term low-T therapeutic plan. In some cases this may be covered through insurance, but even if not, many treatment clinics will administer doses and follow with routine BW for general health assessments. This may be a better alternative.
You should give some thought to an aromatase inhibitor (aromasin or arimidex ). although yoir intended dose is low and may not cause much aromatization, a body fat of 20% (or higher) will predispose you to more side effects including greater aromatization which needs to be managed effectively.
For hypertension (high blood pressure) Cialis may help but I recommend considering a more direct approach for managing HTN. There are several classes of drugs that could be prescribed depending on your medical history. Your pre-existing HTN coupled with a higher bf than is usually recommended for anabolic use (15% or less is encouraged but that's not to say people don't cycle with a bf of 20% or more) puts you at a bit of a risk for side effects.
I'd recommend some blood work before using any form of AAS just so you have a solid overview of your general health and physiology before introducing anabolic agents. Additional BW during and after cycle would be helpful to assess your response to the drug(s) as well as identify any possible risks or concerns as they develop.
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Great reply, thank you. Live in the UK so not aware of any well-man clinics, had a good tip from a post though, to visit a needle exchange clinic, where they will administer bloods if you ask. I want to move slow and steady to see how my body reacts, spoke to my doc about bloods and test, he did not want to know, recommended anti-depressants, thanks stay safe, Dickster.
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