help new - has questions about stack

[jm0429]

I'm new to all this. I'm about 5'9" 207lbs 25% bf- I'm looking to gain lean muscle i dont mind my size and am looking to drop body fat quick. I started 50mg of drol the days i workout about 4 xs a a week and 60 of var daily recently - (2 weeks in) was wondering what is good should i up to 80 var?? and what is better.. Keeping that stack or I've been looking up some other stuff...seen clen is a good fat burner . So what's better and how much to use clen and var stack or drol and var stack

[gymsoldier]

Try the healthy eating stack in the nutrition stack section.

[austinite]

I'm new to all this. I'm about 5'9" 207lbs 25% bf- I'm looking to gain lean muscle i dont mind my size and am looking to drop body fat quick. I started 50mg of drol the days i workout about 4 xs a a week and 60 of var daily recently - (2 weeks in) was wondering what is good should i up to 80 var?? and what is better.. Keeping that stack or I've been looking up some other stuff...seen clen is a good fat burner . So what's better and how much to use clen and var stack or drol and var stack

Welcome.

1. You do not take Drol on random days. That's not how it works.
2. 25% BF is too high, especially for drol.
3. No testosterone mentioned, not good.
4. No Ai, no PCT mentioned either.

I strongly advise you to abort this cycle and visit the nutrition section for critique.

[jm0429]

Oh yes I def added some test-- so what would you recommend

[Back In Black]

Oh yes I def added some test-- so what would you recommend

Nutrition forum, as suggested, will be your best friend. It's a fantastic resource. Read the 'cutting101' sticky and formulate a plan

[Pittsburgh412]

I'm new to all this. I'm about 5'9" 207lbs 25% bf- I'm looking to gain lean muscle i dont mind my size and am looking to drop body fat quick. I started 50mg of drol the days i workout about 4 xs a a week and 60 of var daily recently - (2 weeks in) was wondering what is good should i up to 80 var?? and what is better.. Keeping that stack or I've been looking up some other stuff...seen clen is a good fat burner . So what's better and how much to use clen and var stack or drol and var stack

I would say instead of clen use albuterol , if that's not an option, IDE day var and clen (if your cutting) and hitting the nutrition section couldn't hurt

[Back In Black]

I would say instead of clen use albuterol , if that's not an option, IDE day var and clen (if your cutting) and hitting the nutrition section couldn't hurt

Again, please stop giving advice. Did you see his bf% and you are recommending AAS? And orals only?

OP there is no substitute for a good diet. No drug will make up for a poor one. Pittsburgh can vouch for that.

[Pittsburgh412]

Again, please stop giving advice. Did you see his bf% and you are recommending AAS? And orals only?

OP there is no substitute for a good diet. No drug will make up for a poor one. Pittsburgh can vouch for that.

Unlike most people I answer the question asked not redirected him, that's the problem with this forum is nobody gives a straight answer.

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Unlike most people I answer the question asked not redirected him, that's the problem with this forum is nobody gives a straight answer.

Austinite already answered all his questions 2hrs ago.

[Pittsburgh412]

Austinite already answered all his questions 2hrs ago.

Austinite did no such thing until about 2 minutes ago when he edited his post

[austinite]

I would say instead of clen use albuterol , if that's not an option, IDE day var and clen (if your cutting) and hitting the nutrition section couldn't hurt

This is terrible advice. sorry pitt, you're inexperienced and way off here. We need to be concerned for members' safety.

[MuscleInk]

Unlike most people I answer the question asked not redirected him, that's the problem with this forum is nobody gives a straight answer.

So your advice is to propose drugs that may put his health at significant risk when his body fat is too high? He didn't put on the excess weight because he wasn't using clenbuterol or albuteral. The accumulation of body fat came from poor eating choices and a lack of proper exercise. Fixing his nutrition and exercise is a safer approach and will provide sustainable results provided he stays committed to better eating and regular exercise. Your recommendations are only a temporary solution and once he discontinues the drugs, the weight gain will return if he hasn't established healthy lifestyle behaviors that will promote long term success.

We don't redirect. We suggest appropriate solutions base on the individual's needs and experiences and when they have developed healthy lifestyle choices that prepare them for anabolics or thermogenics, THEN we advise accordingly.

[austinite]

Austinite did no such thing until about 2 minutes ago when he edited his post

I never edited anything. Pitt if you don't like that we operate with safety in mind... go start your own forum or find yourself a new online home. you're very close to getting on my shit list. Everything was cool with you and all of a sudden you've become this anti-forum guy. Not sure why.

You see it as a problem with this forum, we see it as what differentiates us from everyone else.

[Pittsburgh412]

I never edited anything. Pitt if you don't like that we operate with safety in mind... go start your own forum or find yourself a new online home. you're very close to getting on my shit list. Everything was cool with you and all of a sudden you've become this anti-forum guy. Not sure why.

I don't know , misplaced anger and I apologize for that

[austinite]

I don't know , misplaced anger and I apologize for that

It's ok. I just want you to understand that we operate with safety in mind first. We do not "just answer questions". That's what every other forum is for.

I appreciate it.

[Pittsburgh412]

It's ok. I just want you to understand that we operate with safety in mind first. We do not "just answer questions". That's what every other forum is for.

I appreciate it.

Yeah reading back on my posts I came off as a huge dick and yeah I guess it's easy to think for me that having a high BF and minimal sides everyone will be like that, speaking of which is that a rare occurrence?

[bigsiv]

Yeah reading back on my posts I came off as a huge dick and yeah I guess it's easy to think for me that having a high BF and minimal sides everyone will be like that, speaking of which is that a rare occurrence?

Very rare, very rare indeed.

[austinite]

Yeah reading back on my posts I came off as a huge dick and yeah I guess it's easy to think for me that having a high BF and minimal sides everyone will be like that, speaking of which is that a rare occurrence?

You're not out of the woods yet pitt. Sides are not only what you can feel and see in the mirror. This is why blood work is so important. It tells us everything. Without it, who knows if you're actually succeeding, but science would say that you're not healthy internally. I never gauge my success on general side effects, only by blood work.

[Pittsburgh412]

You're not out of the woods yet pitt. Sides are not only what you can feel and see in the mirror. This is why blood work is so important. It tells us everything. Without it, who knows if you're actually succeeding, but science would say that you're not healthy internally. I never gauge my success on general side effects, only by blood work.

So if I go get bloodwork done i will know for sure, can you tell me how to go about doing that (not through my PCP) , I was going to get bloodwork do d but for some reason I just had the gear, pct, AI and needles all ready to go and I caved and just decided to throw all caution to the wind (retarded idea)
And I know I bloated but once I upped my water intake that went down aswell

[austinite]

So if I go get bloodwork done i will know for sure, can you tell me how to go about doing that (not through my PCP) , I was going to get bloodwork do d but for some reason I just had the gear, pct, AI and needles all ready to go and I caved and just decided to throw all caution to the wind (retarded idea)
And I know I bloated but once I upped my water intake that went down aswell

Of course I will help you. that's what we're here for. Get blood work and let's have a look at it.

[jm0429]

I was in an accident and wasn't able to workout for about a year shoulda watched my diet but didn't. I was recently cleared started working out, 3 weeks in now and changed my diet dramatically. I do not plan on taking a cycle without diet and exercise I know they all go together.. Just looking to quick start something.. Had bloodworm done and physical everything is good there..