Test e and tren e

**animalBLIND** · 06-17-2013, 12:04 PM

Does anyone have any experience with test e and tren e cycles? I'm not new to steroids as this will b my 4th cycle.

**austinite** · 06-17-2013, 12:07 PM

Please ask your questions. Many experienced members here. You will need to include your stats as follows:

Age
Height
Weight
Body Fat percentage.
What have you cycled in the past?
Years in training
Any injuries/medical conditions?

Please reply when you have all the above, body fat percentage is important, please don't skip any stats. Thanks.

**evander87** · 06-17-2013, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by animalBLIND

Does anyone have any experience with test e and tren e cycles?

Yep quite a few on here actually.

**animalBLIND** · 06-17-2013, 03:45 PM

25 years old been training for 5 years. 5'10 193lb looking to compete in next year or so. Bf 14%
Past cycles were
Cycle 1
Test e 250 1cc 2x a week for 8 weeks
Nolva week 10-12 40-20-10
Cycle 2
Test e 300 1cc 2x week for 10 weeks
Adex .5 eod
Nolva week 12-14 40-20-20
Cycle 3
Test e 300 1cc 2x week for 10
Dbol weeks 1-4 30mg
Adex .5 eod
Nolva weeks 12-14 40-20-10
Cycle 4
Sus 250 1cc 2x week for 8 weeks
Adex .5 eod
Nolva week 10-12 40-20-20
Clomid week 10-12 100-50-50

**animalBLIND** · 06-17-2013, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by animalBLIND

25 years old been training for 5 years. 5'10 193lb looking to compete in next year or so. Bf 14%
Past cycles were
Cycle 1
Test e 250 1cc 2x a week for 8 weeks
Nolva week 10-12 40-20-10
Cycle 2
Test e 300 1cc 2x week for 10 weeks
Adex .5 eod
Nolva week 12-14 40-20-20
Cycle 3
Test e 300 1cc 2x week for 10
Dbol weeks 1-4 30mg
Adex .5 eod
Nolva weeks 12-14 40-20-10
Cycle 4
Sus 250 1cc 2x week for 8 weeks
Adex .5 eod
Nolva week 10-12 40-20-20
Clomid week 10-12 100-50-50

My bad ice done 4 cycles with the next one being my 5th

**fit2bOld** · 06-17-2013, 05:00 PM

So what are you proposing for this time?
Tren has some pretty harsh sides night sweats can be brutal

**animalBLIND** · 06-17-2013, 05:09 PM

Want something for strength and mass. Dbol was a bad batch I believe I didn't see what the hype was. Was considering test e 300 1 cc 2x a week for 12 weeks and tren e 200 1cc 2x a week. Never done tren before

**evander87** · 06-17-2013, 05:23 PM

For me, I like to learn how I react to a compound. I'm 3/4 through my first tren cycle. I run a trt dose of test (125/week) and want to use the smallest amount of Tren to feel how I react. I'm taking 300 Tren e a week. No night sweats because I don't sleep. I think in the last three days I've gotten 6 hours total. I'm using caber as my support but next time I run tren (yes I will do it again next year the results have been fantastic) I'll try prami. Seems that it knocks people out but might cause nausea. I too ran tren E for the first tren cycle but I started with a lower dose knowing the sides I was going to experience. I also knew that it would take weeks to clear my system if I had a bad reaction. IMHO if you're set on Tren E you might want to start lower dose in case the sides are too much to handle.

**MajorPectorial** · 06-17-2013, 05:38 PM

Getting that little sleep constantly is really not good for u mate. Can docs not do anything? Have u tried different sleep preps/relaxing techniques n the like. I'm a serious sleep sufferer myself. N although hate reading I use an hour or so either reading on here. Researching. Tensing muscles n relaxing them and relaxing music on top of antihistamines*hay fever tablets. No. I don't have hay fever but my doc happily prescribed these (make me drowsy) and zopiclone. But I suffer quite severely. So have to do everything I can.

**animalBLIND** · 06-17-2013, 05:40 PM

I thought about that. Pinning often is no problem I've never really done a short ester compound beside the sus 250 which had prop in it. Jus want something to set my strength over the edge. Training is going good with test only. No gyno or any real bad sides besides oily skin and acne

**evander87** · 06-17-2013, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by MajorPectorial

Getting that little sleep constantly is really not good for u mate. Can docs not do anything? Have u tried different sleep preps/relaxing techniques n the like. I'm a serious sleep sufferer myself. N although hate reading I use an hour or so either reading on here. Researching. Tensing muscles n relaxing them and relaxing music on top of antihistamines*hay fever tablets. No. I don't have hay fever but my doc happily prescribed these (make me drowsy) and zopiclone. But I suffer quite severely. So have to do everything I can.

I think the docs would tell me to stop taking tren . Lol. I've tried almost everything OTC and I can go down only to wake up wide awake an hour or two later. Then I spend five hours tossing and turning. Funny thing is I don't feel tired during the day. Weird? I have caber to get through this cycle and next time ill try prami. Hope that puts me down for the night.

Eat meticulous, train ridiculous for best results.

**animalBLIND** · 06-18-2013, 03:46 AM

I was also considering sustanon 250 ??? I've done one cycle of it and had no issues. Loved the results

**animalBLIND** · 06-18-2013, 02:22 PM

Bump.

**fit2bOld** · 06-18-2013, 08:20 PM

Would look to a low dose of deca with test, before trying Tren . Dbol is a waste you just piss those gains away later. Good strength gains you need to control estrogen right from the start with a good AI.
Of course if diet and exercise plan are not on point then wait until that is in check.

**kelkel** · 06-18-2013, 08:28 PM

Whatever you choose, opt for a good set of BW with a full hormone panel before you start. You've run a good amount of cycles for your age so it would benefit you to know exactly where you stand at this point. You'll then know hopefully where you should return to...

**animalBLIND** · 06-18-2013, 09:24 PM

My body is working properly. Never had any issues as I am very cautious and done tons of research before any cycle I did. I am a little skiddish about tren period. Loved the sus 250 with ai whole cycle. Diet and training is on key roughly taking in 3200 cals 250g protein and 190g carbs and 80g fat during summer cutting season. Training is all programmed by a power lifting buddy

**kelkel** · 06-18-2013, 09:33 PM

Research all you like. But without occasional blood work you really have no clue what's going on inside of you, despite how you feel. You're willing to do cycle after cycle and spend the time researching to be as effective, efficient and hopefully safe, yet you are readily willing to neglect what's going on inside of you. There are sites that allow you to get blood work done privately, without a doctor if you choose.

BTW, people drop dead all the time who "felt great." Young guys too.

**austinite** · 06-18-2013, 09:37 PM

"It's human nature in a "more is better" society full of a younger generation that expects instant gratification, then complain when they don't get it. The problem will get far worse before it gets better." - kelkel

**animalBLIND** · 06-19-2013, 12:18 AM

What's some of the sources for BW that u speak of?

**chi** · 06-19-2013, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by animalBLIND

What's some of the sources for BW that u speak of?

hospitals, doctor offices, labs, etc...

**austinite** · 06-19-2013, 12:28 AM

For future reference, bookmark cheaplabs.com, they will be the best and most cost effective.

For now, google private md labs.

**animalBLIND** · 06-19-2013, 08:13 AM

Will do. Never looked into BW before. Most people in my area never do BW. I ca see it to b a good thing but unless ur in good with a doctor then won't help u much. Can't jus go in to a doc and say u need BW done due to using gear. Lmao