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    Tren higher, Test higher, or Same?

    Short version, researching for a future Tren run (my first). Have read Antomini's thread on Tren and taken heart to his suggestions. With that, my proposed run is...

    Test Prop - 175 mg/wk
    Tren Ace - 350 mg/wk

    Will be running Caber/Dostinex at 1 mg/wk as well as Adex at .5 EOD.

    Curious what those who have more experience with Tren have thought of the higher tren lower test style? Almost everywhere I see suggested higher test and all the blends I find have the test higher. Curious (Since Antomini sadly will not be answering) what others who have tried both had to say and which you preferred?

    Since I'm sure someone will ask even though this is a future/hypothetical cycle. My stats are:

    (Currently)
    29 yo
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    221 lbs
    11.8% BF

    Cycle history -

    Test E - 500 mg/wk (bunk/severely underdosed)
    Test Prop/Anavar - 525 mg/wk Prop and up to 120 mg/day Var (Underdosed crap again and completely bunk Var)
    Test Prop/NPP - About to start @ 150 each EOD (Definitely NOT bunk/underdosed)

    Yes I have been to the diet section.

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    Doesn't matter. You just have to try it and see what works best. There is no 'rule' with the ratio.
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    Tried both...I like it more when both are higher.

    Although if I was on a budget on a cut I'd just use tren , still works good alone with low test....just feel better overall with higher test and tren. But seems like this is different for everyone, so you just got to try both and see what you like better.

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    I have always liked running my tren higher but you have to find out what works best for you. To many get caught up with what they say in forums, everyone is diff, can't go by what the top vet says, you feel me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite
    Doesn't matter. You just have to try it and see what works best. There is no 'rule' with the ratio.
    Agree, I've done low test, cant give a very good opinion on it though because I was using letro for gyno reversal and I felt like absolute crap, currently running it the same 525/525 and feeling great.

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    Sounds good. I'll ensure I have enough prop to change it up if I need/want. Guess trial and error is really the only way.

    As far as my proposed run though, do the doses look alright for a first time tren run or should they be adjusted?

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    I always like to keep test just a lil bit higher then my tren dose but that's just me.. Like u said trial and error is the only way to find out what's best for YOU. Good luck

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    I think your ai dosage is too high to start. Unless you've gotten Bloodwork and need that much?

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    I usually run Aromasin at 12.5 (may on this one as well) Just got a bottle of Adex from AR-R sitting around as well figured I'd give it a shot and see how it goes. Would you suggest dropping the Adex to .25 EOD or extending the .5 to E3D? Never had any gyno issues or even symptoms really. Have caber in hand and will be running it at 1 mg/wk from the get go. I prefer to prevent not treat after symptoms start.

    Will do bloods halfway through the cycle and double check.

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    Yeah start at 1/4 eod

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    Excuse my ignorance but what happened to atomini? Hopefully hes ok?

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    Its all preference when it comes to dose and goals

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    I just completed a cycle while relying heavily on Atomini's thread. I liked it WAY more than the cycle I did a year ago following more traditional advice of using higher Test. I got better results, and my sides were reduced quite a bit. That may be due to a change in A.I. during cycle too. Next cycle, I may scale the test back even more - to just over an HRT dose.
    I'll echo what others have said also - everyone's different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rv8G30 View Post
    Excuse my ignorance but what happened to atomini? Hopefully hes ok?
    He was asked to leave due to a rules violation, but his contributions to this board are still fine. No need to discount them. Hope posting this is not a rules violation!

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