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    freakups is offline New Member
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    sustanon question

    iam going to be starting my first cycle in two weeks, i was going to do
    sustanon 500 or 750/week and d bol 30mg/ed 8-10 weeks but now i have been thinking and i dont know if i really want to take a oral!!! so the question is should i just take the sustanon for my first cycle? and if so what dose? how does this work without a oral mixed with it? let me know what you think... thanks
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    take the dbol too 25mg/ day for weeks 1-4 thats how I was running my first w/ 500mg sust / week

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    Cant you get an single ester test? Like enth or cyp?

    Shane85...18...

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    dude do some more research... hit the drug profiles menu hard on the main menu you really need to... never do a 17aa oral like dbol for that long thats really f***** bad for your liver. I would also run the sus with deca the two together have a synergetic affect. Here's what I'm doing right now:
    Wks 1-4: dbol 30mg ED
    Wks 1-8: deca 500 mg EW
    Wks 1-8: sust 500 mg EW
    Wks 8-16: winny 50mg EOD
    Wks 8-16: eq 600 mg EW
    Wks 13-16: clen 10 ng ED

    So run it like Im runnin my first 8 weeks.

    Good luck.

    BIG PRESSER

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    Originally posted by palme
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    Originally posted by Big Presser
    dude do some more research... hit the drug profiles menu hard on the main menu you really need to... never do a 17aa oral like dbol for that long thats really f***** bad for your liver. I would also run the sus with deca the two together have a synergetic affect. Here's what I'm doing right now:
    Wks 1-4: dbol 30mg ED
    Wks 1-8: deca 500 mg EW
    Wks 1-8: sust 500 mg EW
    Wks 8-16: winny 50mg EOD
    Wks 8-16: eq 600 mg EW
    Wks 13-16: clen 10 ng ED

    So run it like Im runnin my first 8 weeks.

    Good luck.

    BIG PRESSER
    it was a type o, i wasnt going to run d bol the whole cycle! iam not that fucked up!
    thanks for the replys

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    Best bet..run 500mg sus/week for the 10 weeks.
    Start to run them d-bol 25/30mg everyday during weeks 3-7!
    Didnt hear you mention your clomid and hcg , dont forget!!!
    Hope this helps..

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    big presser , why dont you take your own advice and hit the drug profiles hard coz you are using winstrol a 17 aa for 8 weeks and thats harsh on the liver also.. geeeeeeeeeezzz!!

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    Originally posted by joe_capone
    big presser , why dont you take your own advice and hit the drug profiles hard coz you are using winstrol a 17 aa for 8 weeks and thats harsh on the liver also.. geeeeeeeeeezzz!!
    i have to agree with that, this is my first cycle so i want it to be a good one!!! thanks guys
    -matt

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    I would do 1 gram for the first week of sust EOD then run 500 mg for weeks 2-10.

    Just my 2 cents

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    I know many people who have gained well on the firast cycle of just 500mg weekly of sust

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