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    Controlled Delivery arrest, now what?

    A buddy of mine just got arrested in his home after accepting a package he ordered online, 5 bottles of deca 2 bottles of test and some winstrol v, along with pct stuff.

    I haven't seen or talked to him since, he is isolating himself from the gym and everyone he knows so I am assuming it is pretty bad? not sure

    so what is the next step will he do time for this? and also how often do controlled deliverys occur and end up in an arrest?

    I was told these things rarely happen and if your only ordering a personal amount of gear they do nothing other than seize the package or send you a letter warning you.

    anyone have any input worried about my friend, and myself considering I am planning on doing another order soon thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by corkay128 View Post
    A buddy of mine just got arrested in his home after accepting a package he ordered online, 5 bottles of deca 2 bottles of test and some winstrol v, along with pct stuff.

    I haven't seen or talked to him since, he is isolating himself from the gym and everyone he knows so I am assuming it is pretty bad? not sure

    so what is the next step will he do time for this? and also how often do controlled deliverys occur and end up in an arrest?

    I was told these things rarely happen and if your only ordering a personal amount of gear they do nothing other than seize the package or send you a letter warning you.

    anyone have any input worried about my friend, and myself considering I am planning on doing another order soon thanks!
    Sounds like BS... my 2c.

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    He for sure got arrested I talked to the people in the neighborhood

    is it common for an arrest to be made with a delivery like this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by corkay128 View Post
    He for sure got arrested I talked to the people in the neighborhood

    is it common for an arrest to be made with a delivery like this?
    extremely umcommon.

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    Common percentage wise based on the number of people who order gear and have it delivered to them? No, most get away with it. But people get arrested for personal use through controlled delivery far more often than most steroid users want to admit. It's uncomfortable to admit.

    The most common reason to be arrested in a case like you mentioned is if you're suspected of selling any gear. I've seen a few guys over the years actually get in trouble for selling a few bottles of testosterone . In other cases, LE will arrest you because they are going to want to use the individual to get to the supplier. In this case, the guy arrested essentially becomes bait. He'll be told his life will be ruined if he doesn't help them. They will threaten everything under the sun and most break. Everyone says they'd never break but almost everyone breaks.

    Here's an excerpt from the website for Rick Collins steroid attorney. The site has recently been updated.

    Small-time arrests for personal possession do still occur. Sometimes these arrests arise out of car stops for traffic violations and the steroids are found during a search of the car. Car searches are frequent at border crossings, where law enforcement authorities searching for drugs are less restricted by Fourth Amendment constraints. [I recently successfully defended two steroid cases in which my clients' cars were stopped and thoroughly searched at U.S. land borders (New York/Canada and Texas/Mexico).]

    However, the fastest-growing way of getting busted for personal steroid use is by ordering them over the Internet to receive them in the mail. I have been consulted or retained on hundreds of cases of this type. Those who order mail-order steroids run the risk that the delivery can be intercepted by U.S. Customs or postal authorities, precipitating an investigation and potentially an arrest. Many otherwise law-abiding mature adults have been arrested based on their receipt of anabolics through the mail. Many others were contacted by government agents who confiscated the steroid delivery but did not make an arrest. There is little uniformity in the way these cases are handled across the country, although regionaloverall mail volume seems to be a factor. U.S. Customs agents in metropolitan New York, for example, might handle a personal use amount very differently than Customs agents in rural Alabama.

    While the vast majority of users (recently estimated as high as 6 million Americans!) probably donít get caught, you could be one of the unlucky few. Since the enactment of the federal Anabolic Steroid Control Act of 1990, expanded by Congress in 2004, steroids are in the same legal class ó Schedule III ó as barbiturates, LSD precursors, veterinary tranquilizers like ketamine and narcotic painkillers like Vicodin [a new Senate bill would further expand the definition of an ďanabolic steroidĒ]. Simple unlawful possession is a federal offense punishable by up to one year in prison and/or a minimum fine of $1,000 for a first offense (most states have added anabolic steroids to their schedules of controlled substances). Even if a jail sentence is ultimately avoided, the consequences of an arrest alone include being handcuffed, fingerprinted, and hauled before a judge for arraignment in open court. There will likely be legal expenses and even forfeiture of seized assets. A criminal conviction may prevent or interfere with employment opportunities in many fields such as law enforcement, and members of certain professions involving licensing (physicians, lawyers, dentists, pharmacists, teachers, nurses, cosmetologists, public accountants, architects, auctioneers, barbers, and licensed counselors, just to name a few) can expect a conviction to be reported to their state licensing authority, placing current employment in jeopardy. A drug conviction can suspend a personís driverís license (itís mandatory in some jurisdictions) and be a bar to the ability to own a firearm. Unquestionably, the assistance of experienced legal counsel is your best defense against these potential consequences.

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    Good read! It's always good to know all sides of the story^^^^^^^^^

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    I doubt it. Your "buddy", although you may have not known, was probably a dealer. Or, he is too embarrassed to say why he actually got arrested and gave you a bogus reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    I doubt it. Your "buddy", although you may have not known, was probably a dealer. Or, he is too embarrassed to say why he actually got arrested and gave you a bogus reason.
    child pron.

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    what country?

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    If its in the US, the arrest and even the affidavit is public record at the local court house and often times online. Look it up before buying his BS.

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    New Jersey, he ordered them online i know for sure, him and I have done an order togethebefore with no problems at all

    I am just a little scared for him now, and myself as well cuz i order juice online mail order pretty often

    my main question is how often does this happen to people where they actually get prosecuted for ordering juice in the mail

    and what could his punishment possibly be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by corkay128 View Post
    New Jersey, he ordered them online i know for sure, him and I have done an order togethebefore with no problems at all

    I am just a little scared for him now, and myself as well cuz i order juice online mail order pretty often

    my main question is how often does this happen to people where they actually get prosecuted for ordering juice in the mail

    and what could his punishment possibly be?
    Too many variables. Depends on if they were state or federal charges, quantity, history etc.
    Like I said...dbl check and make sure it's TRUE before worrying your pretty little head about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by corkay128 View Post
    He for sure got arrested I talked to the people in the neighborhood

    is it common for an arrest to be made with a delivery like this?
    How would people in the neighborhood know what he was arrested for before a friend?

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    It smells strongly of bs in here

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    not 100% sure, the town is small and very close nit, a few guys in the neighborhood where he lives saw the arrest take place when the package arrived, some of it could be hearsay obviously but i know he got arrested but evidently he was released and awaiting a hearing

    I'm just curious what will happen to him from here, and how often this type of thing happens to people who mail order juice

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    I cant speak about his story but I read in my local paper a few yrs bck a guy ordered from eastern europe,probably a cycle amount ,was delivered,he signed,gave him a lil time and went in his house, it was open on his kitchen table,so it happens.

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    You might want to avoid contact with him.

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    Order domestic. Order small amounts. Don't sell to anyone, ever. Don't tell anyone that you use. When you are done with your cycle, throw away all of the vials. Do not transport the stuff around in your car. If you work in a job that you could lose if they find it in your system, get on TRT so that you have an excuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by corkay128 View Post
    New Jersey, he ordered them online i know for sure, him and I have done an order togethebefore with no problems at all

    I am just a little scared for him now, and myself as well cuz i order juice online mail order pretty often

    my main question is how often does this happen to people where they actually get prosecuted for ordering juice in the mail

    and what could his punishment possibly be?
    I'd say you're ok, they must know who he bought it from, so they obviously know the source... Hopefully when you ordered together, it went to his address.
    You might want to stash anything you have "offsite", as they may have your info. Time to find a new source.

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    would 500 tabs of anavar be a large amount, I was planning on doing that soon to go along with my next cycle in early spring

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    Before i say anything, want to put it out there i have never ordered AAS being that i'm not ready for it. Threads like this do catch my attention though as i'm into crime solving, law enforcement & all that crap.

    I smell BS here. New Jersey? Depending on what part of NJ, as far as i know the cops & DEA in NJ have enough on their hands to worry about some small fish buying a cycle to get big unless of course he is dealer of any sorts. I would believe it if say this happened in rural Idaho or North Dakota where the population is so small any crime committed will warrant the attention of any law enforcement official whether it a guy beating his wife, a meth lab or a guy stealing candy, it gets attention because they have nothing else better to do?

    When you hear about bodybuilders or your average gym rat getting busted for AAS, it's because they got too comfortable and started selling the stuff to friends. Word get's around & now you're the new go to guy and now you've got LE & DEA watching you. More times than not when these guys get busted for AAS, they're selling/using a lot more than AAS. Where there's drugs there's guns; anyone remember Ryan Kennelly? Steroids got LE's attention, they show up at his house & they find an array of drugs and guns and down he goes. My advice? Order small, tell no one about your use, NEVER sell no matter how close you are to the person because your best friend can turn you into your best enemy, keep a clean house at all times & my last one, don't take a pic of your stash ever. LE can & will use that picture against you, smart phones are the new Popo.

    Happy lifting fellas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalject View Post
    Common percentage wise based on the number of people who order gear and have it delivered to them? No, most get away with it. But people get arrested for personal use through controlled delivery far more often than most steroid users want to admit. It's uncomfortable to admit.

    The most common reason to be arrested in a case like you mentioned is if you're suspected of selling any gear. I've seen a few guys over the years actually get in trouble for selling a few bottles of testosterone . In other cases, LE will arrest you because they are going to want to use the individual to get to the supplier. In this case, the guy arrested essentially becomes bait. He'll be told his life will be ruined if he doesn't help them. They will threaten everything under the sun and most break. Everyone says they'd never break but almost everyone breaks.

    Here's an excerpt from the website for Rick Collins steroid attorney. The site has recently been updated.

    Small-time arrests for personal possession do still occur. Sometimes these arrests arise out of car stops for traffic violations and the steroids are found during a search of the car. Car searches are frequent at border crossings, where law enforcement authorities searching for drugs are less restricted by Fourth Amendment constraints. [I recently successfully defended two steroid cases in which my clients' cars were stopped and thoroughly searched at U.S. land borders (New York/Canada and Texas/Mexico).]

    However, the fastest-growing way of getting busted for personal steroid use is by ordering them over the Internet to receive them in the mail. I have been consulted or retained on hundreds of cases of this type. Those who order mail-order steroids run the risk that the delivery can be intercepted by U.S. Customs or postal authorities, precipitating an investigation and potentially an arrest. Many otherwise law-abiding mature adults have been arrested based on their receipt of anabolics through the mail. Many others were contacted by government agents who confiscated the steroid delivery but did not make an arrest. There is little uniformity in the way these cases are handled across the country, although regionaloverall mail volume seems to be a factor. U.S. Customs agents in metropolitan New York, for example, might handle a personal use amount very differently than Customs agents in rural Alabama.

    While the vast majority of users (recently estimated as high as 6 million Americans!) probably don’t get caught, you could be one of the unlucky few. Since the enactment of the federal Anabolic Steroid Control Act of 1990, expanded by Congress in 2004, steroids are in the same legal class — Schedule III — as barbiturates, LSD precursors, veterinary tranquilizers like ketamine and narcotic painkillers like Vicodin [a new Senate bill would further expand the definition of an “anabolic steroid”]. Simple unlawful possession is a federal offense punishable by up to one year in prison and/or a minimum fine of $1,000 for a first offense (most states have added anabolic steroids to their schedules of controlled substances). Even if a jail sentence is ultimately avoided, the consequences of an arrest alone include being handcuffed, fingerprinted, and hauled before a judge for arraignment in open court. There will likely be legal expenses and even forfeiture of seized assets. A criminal conviction may prevent or interfere with employment opportunities in many fields such as law enforcement, and members of certain professions involving licensing (physicians, lawyers, dentists, pharmacists, teachers, nurses, cosmetologists, public accountants, architects, auctioneers, barbers, and licensed counselors, just to name a few) can expect a conviction to be reported to their state licensing authority, placing current employment in jeopardy. A drug conviction can suspend a person’s driver’s license (it’s mandatory in some jurisdictions) and be a bar to the ability to own a firearm. Unquestionably, the assistance of experienced legal counsel is your best defense against these potential consequences.


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    OF all the ridicoulous advice you have recieved in this thread. Metalject has advice that i would read. The rest i would assume is from 14-16 year old kids guessing. if you need to call Mr Collins i would do so in a heart beat. my 2 cents but ive only been in the game a couple of decades. good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Money Talks View Post
    Order domestic. Order small amounts. Don't sell to anyone, ever. Don't tell anyone that you use. When you are done with your cycle, throw away all of the vials. Do not transport the stuff around in your car. If you work in a job that you could lose if they find it in your system, get on TRT so that you have an excuse.
    but its fine posting on the web ........ LMAO perfect example, genious !!!!!

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