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    Quote Originally Posted by Powerlifter87 View Post
    Hello, I'm new to all of this.

    I'm 96kg 26 years old 6ft tall.

    I just started anavar cycle at 80mg ED been on that for a week now and been the retard I pinned 1ml of test prop on Friday and then started my test eth cycle Sunday. I now I'm now starting to get sensitive nipples. I noticed it after the prop injection. My room mate gave me 2 AIs yesterday and half of one today to take every day until my next injection.. My test cycle was only going to be 8 weeks of 0.6 ml injected 2x per week.

    Should I come off?
    Am I getting bitch tits?
    Should I start Nolva until the end of the cycle?

    Help
    Welcome powerlifter,

    You're not developing gynecomastia from 1 or 2 injections. You're simply beginning to experience some hormonal changes. To be frank, it sounds like you could use a lot more research. You could continue your cycle and follow my lead in this article. But if you do not have everything lined up or unable to make the smooth transition, it may be in your best interest to abort the cycle.

    At this stage, if you decided to abort your cycle, there is no need for PCT. You can just stop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Welcome powerlifter,

    You're not developing gynecomastia from 1 or 2 injections. You're simply beginning to experience some hormonal changes. To be frank, it sounds like you could use a lot more research. You could continue your cycle and follow my lead in this article. But if you do not have everything lined up or unable to make the smooth transition, it may be in your best interest to abort the cycle.

    At this stage, if you decided to abort your cycle, there is no need for PCT. You can just stop.
    AS usual right on by Aust~. Op he is right and I suggest that you STOP and read up. Get more educated on what you are doing. The compound profiles different AI's and how they work. Read up on this article. Then start a new. I will tell you that when I inject 150 + mgs of Test Prop at anytime in my cycle, I can and sometimes feel sensitive to the touch nipples. It settles back down. So watch your body, get to know your body, get BW and be careful. Take your Ai as protocol says. Always take AI with your Test cycle. ...crazy mike

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    @Austinite...If Test-C is substituted for Test-E on the beginner cycle layout what is the dose for test-c...mg/w?

    thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by base4291ball View Post
    @Austinite...If Test-C is substituted for Test-E on the beginner cycle layout what is the dose for test-c...mg/w?

    thanks!
    Yes. The difference between test E and C is negligible. Wouldn't hurt to start PCT a few days later with Cyp. So 17 days after last test injection. Same dosing as Enanthate .
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    Thanks austinite, you're the best.

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    difference between torem & tamox other than price? which is better or should a newbie use?

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    This has been a great help for me

    Thanks austinite

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    Quote Originally Posted by base4291ball View Post
    difference between torem & tamox other than price? which is better or should a newbie use?

    thanks
    Tamoxifen, Clomid, Toremifene and Rolaxifene. Which for what?
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    Awsome info thanks

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    Glad to see you all enjoyed it. Hope you make use of it!
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    thanks austinite, again, the best.

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    Anytime, base.
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    Excuse me if I missed this part but...

    Why Clomid and Nolva both for PCT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by P0RK CH0P View Post
    Excuse me if I missed this part but...

    Why Clomid and Nolva both for PCT?
    Nolva boosts the effects of clomid because it puts clomid into "competition" mode where they both fight for a receptor to bind to. This competitiveness will ONLY happen with the presence of BOTH compounds and will inevitably resolve the issue of excess estrogen in the Hypothalamus, so that GnRH is released properly and the pituitary responds by releasing gonadotropins. This will trigger both LH and FSH to crank UP, as the high estrogen in this cluster is suppressive.

    Can you recover with just one, yes. Possible. But chances are much better with both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite
    Nolva boosts the effects of clomid because it puts clomid into "competition" mode where they both fight for a receptor to bind to. This competitiveness will ONLY happen with the presence of BOTH compounds and will inevitably resolve the issue of excess estrogen in the Hypothalamus, so that GnRH is released properly and the pituitary responds by releasing gonadotropins. This will trigger both LH and FSH to crank UP, as the high estrogen in this cluster is suppressive.

    Can you recover with just one, yes. Possible. But chances are much better with both.
    Someone knows their stuff!

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    @ austinite, can you check out this thread and help me out, thanks!

    Is Tamoxifen-Teva same as Nolvadex & is this stuff legit? w/ pics...

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    Hello, I'm 6"2 200lbs. Just started going to gym 2 years ago when I was 231lbs. I'm 39 years old and finished a anavar only cycle for 8 weeks. I have a great diet in place and go to gym for 2-2.5 hrs 20 days a month. I had great results with var but still have that belly and love handle fat. I bought 2400mg of masteron , 5000mg of test e and same test c along with var, clomid and nolvadex . Like to run a 12 week cycle. What would be the best planned cycle for this? I eat around 200g of proteine and fairly low carb diet. Lots of veggies and fruit. No carbs 5hr before going to bed. Love to shed the fat and build upper body a little. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tdriller View Post
    Hello, I'm 6"2 200lbs. Just started going to gym 2 years ago when I was 231lbs. I'm 39 years old and finished a anavar only cycle for 8 weeks. I have a great diet in place and go to gym for 2-2.5 hrs 20 days a month. I had great results with var but still have that belly and love handle fat. I bought 2400mg of masteron, 5000mg of test e and same test c along with var, clomid and nolvadex. Like to run a 12 week cycle. What would be the best planned cycle for this? I eat around 200g of proteine and fairly low carb diet. Lots of veggies and fruit. No carbs 5hr before going to bed. Love to shed the fat and build upper body a little. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
    You might want to start a new thread, Tdriller. That way you get feedback tailored to you since this thread is for Test only 1st cycles.

    You can shed fat easily, just need your diet evaluated in the nutrition section. There's really no special protocol with steroids that does this.

    Good luck.
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    hey guys (& gals if you're out there),

    i needed some advice from some vets or docs like austinite on my diet or a thumbs up to see if it's a first cycle worthy diet.

    thanks everyone for the input & happy lifting.

    http://forums.steroid.com/nutrition-...on-please.html

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    A good read with a lot of useful information.. Thx!

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    Great read, any good information goes along way.

    I have a couple things I'm trying to clear up.
    This is my first cycle and I'm pretty much using the novice cycle 1 from this site ( bit more b-Bol)

    1-12 weeks test eth 500mg/w
    1-6 Weeks 40 mg b-bol
    15-18. Weeks nolvadex . 40/40/20/20
    15-18. Weeks. Clomid. 75/50/50/50

    My questions

    Is it ideal to take both nolvadex and clomid?
    I have been told to only use clomid and just keep nolvadex
    If I have gyno problems?

    My mate said take the 40mg d-Bol but grab milk thistle to help cleanse the liver. Is this dose too much?
    What's your thoughts on the milk thistle?

    My mate has also told me that hcg is the ducks nuts, but expensive and with this cycle I shouldn't need it as long as i dont abuse the cycle.. Thoughts?


    Thank you for your time

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    And u wouldn't believe it. I just read the post about clomid and nolvadex

    Haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dolly View Post
    Great read, any good information goes along way.

    I have a couple things I'm trying to clear up.
    This is my first cycle and I'm pretty much using the novice cycle 1 from this site ( bit more b-Bol)

    1-12 weeks test eth 500mg/w
    1-6 Weeks 40 mg b-bol
    15-18. Weeks nolvadex . 40/40/20/20
    15-18. Weeks. Clomid. 75/50/50/50

    My questions

    Is it ideal to take both nolvadex and clomid?
    I have been told to only use clomid and just keep nolvadex
    If I have gyno problems?

    My mate said take the 40mg d-Bol but grab milk thistle to help cleanse the liver. Is this dose too much?
    What's your thoughts on the milk thistle?

    My mate has also told me that hcg is the ducks nuts, but expensive and with this cycle I shouldn't need it as long as i dont abuse the cycle.. Thoughts?


    Thank you for your time
    Yes you need both. I see that you've read my post on Clomid/Nolva in the other thread, that should have explained everything.

    Milk thistle is not good enough. And I do not recommend dianabol for a first cycle. Not a good idea as stated in this thread. That being said, NAC is best for liver. Click here.

    Read this for hCG explanation, also show it to your mate so he can learn as well: HCG: Why you should use it on-cycle only & how to prepare your hCG for injections

    I don't know what you mean by "If I have gyno problems?"
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    No help with my diet anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by base4291ball View Post
    No help with my diet anyone?
    Base. Please use the PM function to get attention. This thread is dedicated to first cycles. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite
    Base. Please use the PM function to get attention. This thread is dedicated to first cycles. Thanks.
    Alright the way I posed my question I thought it was okay, help with diet to be ready for first cycle, but okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by base4291ball View Post
    Alright the way I posed my question I thought it was okay, help with diet to be ready for first cycle, but okay.
    That's fine. But there's a dedicated section for diets. The article here points you in that direction. I wasn't commenting on your original post, but the follow up.

    I see you've started a thread there, so just PM some users from that section. No flooding please, thank you.
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    Fantastic. Thanks for taking the time.

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    So will I survive without hcg ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dolly View Post
    So will I survive without hcg?
    As in live? Yes. Please observe the following thread so that you can make a more informed decision.

    HCG: Why you should use it on-cycle only & how to prepare your hCG for injections
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    I have read it a couple times now. I'm sure it's all sinking in.
    What if I cannot get hold of hcg .
    Is there somewhere online I can find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dolly View Post
    I have read it a couple times now. I'm sure it's all sinking in.
    What if I cannot get hold of hcg .
    Is there somewhere online I can find it.
    This is not a source board. I do not provide sources, only information so that you can make a decision. If you believe that you will benefit from the information, then delay your cycle until you can get hCG.

    There will be no source discussion. Please read the rules...

    http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...7-25-12-a.html
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    Yes sorry :|

    Thanks so much all this info has been great

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    No problem. Thanks.
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    Austinite, can't we buy hcgenerate from online shops such as

    needtobuildmuscle/store/Test-boosting-PCT/-HCGenerate-p45.html ? Or is this not the hcg you speak of?


    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volkan View Post
    Austinite, can't we buy hcgenerate from online shops such as

    needtobuildmuscle/store/Test-boosting-PCT/-HCGenerate-p45.html ? Or is this not the hcg you speak of?


    Thanks!
    No. That's garbage. Just vitamins and herbs.
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    What about other products such as Unleashed / Post-Cycle / Gear and Forged Liver Support - is it best to stay clear from them?

    Thank you <3

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    Nothing, other than what is mentioned in this article is necessary.
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    As far as liver support goes, is NAC really enough? Out of everything I'm more concerned about liver than gyno

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