My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

[JohnnyDapps]

A lot of good info on one post. Thanks for sharing!

[JohnnyDapps]

After reading this thread and doing tons of my own research I want to start my first cycle. Here's my situation though: I'm on prescription HRT already from my doc. 100mg injectable test a week and 2 bottles of Androgel per month. With that in mind what gear should I add to that? More Test? Any advice?

[austinite]

After reading this thread and doing tons of my own research I want to start my first cycle. Here's my situation though: I'm on prescription HRT already from my doc. 100mg injectable test a week and 2 bottles of Androgel per month. With that in mind what gear should I add to that? More Test? Any advice?

You would just increase your dose to 500mg weekly and follow the instructions. The only difference is that you would not perform PCT when done with your cycle, you would just get back on your TRT protocol.

People still use androgel ?

[JohnnyDapps]

That's what I was already thinking. Just increase my test. And yeah, still in Androgel . 100mg a week injectable and 2 bottles of Androgel a month was the most I could get from my doc. Thanks for the advice!

[JohnnyDapps]

Austinite, one more question. Do you suggest a specific Testosterone or anabolic ? Thanks

[187Chor]

Very informative. Thanks for the info!

[Black Stallion]

Wow, what a spectacular post to read as a newbie. Props, no doubt.

[thall1]

Wow that was very informative, and I really appreciate the advice.

Reading this has convinced me to take the proper steps to do this. I'm currently doing research and planing my first cycle.

I'm 25 I been lifting consistently for 3 yrs, and I'm ready to take it to the next level. So I though lol. I'm now in research mode lol.

So my question is about shelf life of the estrogen blockers, blood test, and the pct. I would like to get all this and have it ready to go before I get my gear. This way I have it ahead of time and I don't spend so much at once.

Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance

[thall1]

Wow that was very informative, and I really appreciate the advice.

Reading this has convinced me to take the proper steps to do this. I'm currently doing research and planing my first cycle.



I'm 25 I been lifting consistently for 3 yrs, and I'm ready to take it to the next level. So I though lol. I'm now in research mode lol.

So my question is about shelf life of the estrogen blockers, blood test, and the pct. I would like to get all this and have it ready to go before I get my gear. This way I have it ahead of time and I don't spend so much at once.

Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance

After doing more research and taking some good advice I have decided to not rush first cycle. I wish I was ready but it's evident I'm not.
1st I'm in the process of rehab on shoulder.
2nd I'm going to try and get alot leaner with cleaner diet, and more cardio.
3rd I'm going to try and find a reliable and trusted source.
4th I'm going to continue to gain knowledge about the subject.

I joined this forum in an attempt to purchase gear I had no idea about pct or anything of that nature. This has really opened my eyes, and stuck a interest with me.

I'm curious about the length of first cycle you suggest 0-12 weeks. To me (a newbie) this sounds like a lot. Is that 12 week a maximum. If I went less than 12 would it even be worth it?

Thanks in advance.

[numbere]

After doing more research and taking some good advice I have decided to not rush first cycle. I wish I was ready but it's evident I'm not.
1st I'm in the process of rehab on shoulder.
2nd I'm going to try and get alot leaner with cleaner diet, and more cardio.
3rd I'm going to try and find a reliable and trusted source.
4th I'm going to continue to gain knowledge about the subject.

I joined this forum in an attempt to purchase gear I had no idea about pct or anything of that nature. This has really opened my eyes, and stuck a interest with me.

I'm curious about the length of first cycle you suggest 0-12 weeks. To me (a newbie) this sounds like a lot. Is that 12 week a maximum. If I went less than 12 would it even be worth it?

Thanks in advance.

It's great to hear that you'll be holding off until you're better prepared!

I hope you stick around the forum and help others with the knowledge you've gained.

This thread is a culmination of decades of trial and error from the community as a whole.

12 weeks seems to be the sweet spot for a first test e cycle.

It's a long enough time to get amazing results, yet short enough not to impede HPTA reset.

Sure, it would be worth it to cycle for less than 12 weeks, but once you begin to see results you'll want it to last for as long as possible.

[thall1]

It's great to hear that you'll be holding off until you're better prepared!

I hope you stick around the forum and help others with the knowledge you've gained.

This thread is a culmination of decades of trial and error from the community as a whole.

12 weeks seems to be the sweet spot for a first test e cycle.

It's a long enough time to get amazing results, yet short enough not to impede HPTA reset.

Sure, it would be worth it to cycle for less than 12 weeks, but once you begin to see results you'll want it to last for as long as possible.

OK cool. I bet a lot of people jump into this and have bad experiences or see poor results.
I plan on sticking around and continuing to learn, and make friends with like minded people. I'm still doing g lots a research on the subject. So my questions will continue. Hopefully they get a little better. LOL

Thanks

[thekidd91]

New to the forums. Very good info thanks bud

[ocman]

- Week 1 to 12: Testosterone enanthate @ 250 mg every 3.5 days (500mg/week total)

Is there any reason to justify running an extra 2 or 4 weeks of test?

[MSphysique]

Great threat, full of advice. Many thanks

[hotdogz13]

We'll I completed my first cycle of just base test. I was wondering if I could get any advice on the 2nd cycle. I have waited a year of not being on anything. Looking to do a base of test again but stack it with something else. Any help would be appreciated thanks.

[monime]

Hello, I am a female wanting to start my first cycle asap but I dont know where to start. Been looking online for Anvaral but dont know who I should buy from. Can anyone help me with this? Where do I go?

[johnnyguy987]

What is a trusted company to buy from? I just got outta the joint and i used british dragon years ago and found there company shut down.

[ocman]

Ok, this is great information and now I want to request a, "Planning and Executing a Successful Second Cycle."

[kelkel]

Ok, this is great information and now I want to request a, "Planning and Executing a Successful Second Cycle."

Simple. Repeat the first cycle and focus even more on nutrition and training.

[ocman]

Simple. Repeat the first cycle and focus even more on nutrition and training.

I hear you...was thinking about front loading, since it takes awhile for the test e to kick in...

Also, next time around, I think I will start off with .5mg eod of arimidex , otherwise my E gets high and I don't feel so great...

[kelkel]

Never thought front loading was really necessary. If time is of the essence use short esters. You should always start with an AI as Test begins to aromatize right away, it does not wait. If you know your E gets too high, based on a sensitive assay then by all means up it a little. You probably don't need to double it though. Again, blood work is key.

[morteza]

best article ever

[BrodsM8]

Thoughts on this for a cycle? turning 23 soon, weigh 85kg (usually 90kgs), 193cm, coming back from surgery on my right arm, an ulna shortening osteotomy so starting with superdrol to fast track a base strength back, trained for years, but now this first proper test cycle. I have used anavar and superdrol before, is the PCT sufficient? i really want to be able to have kids one day haha, i am only looking to do this once cycle and then i will go natural, thoughts and advice please.

Week 1-2 Superdrol 20mg per day
Week 3-4 Recovery
Week 4-6 Superdrol 20mg per day
Week 6-8 Recovery
Week 8-11 Superdrol 20mg per day
Week 8-18 Testosterone -Enanthate or Testosterone-Cypionate : 1ml per week
Week 14-17 Anavar 50mg per day
Week 14-18 1000iu Hcg per week
Week 19-20 Nolvadex 40mg per day
Week 21-22 Nolvadex 20mg per day
Week 23-24 Novladex 10mg per day


Will include Milk Thistle, Krill/Fish/Calamari Oils, Beetroot juice, Hawthorn berry, Multivitamins, Magnesium, Potassium, Red Yeast Rice and CoQ10 along with N-Acetyl Carnitine supplements.

[chefjmo]

It says above to stop the hcg same time you stop the test. I've also read continue hcg until pct. In my mind I would continue until pct. Opinions?

[numbere]

It says above to stop the hcg same time you stop the test. I've also read continue hcg until pct. In my mind I would continue until pct. Opinions?

At the time when this thread was written stopping hcg at the same time as test was considered the best way to keep leydig cells functions while at the same time easing the transition into PCT.

New analytical and quantitative data is always changing the viewpoints of people who live this type of lifestyle.

Over the last few years it has become accepted among a majority the experienced members here that it's most beneficial to use hcg starting on day one of the cycle until 2-3 days before administering PCT.

[Applepie]

delete this reply please

[LoserSlick]

The responsible ones will read it - so about 2 people a year. lol

i read it, but fuck man now i'm super sketch. no way is my guy going to have all that - and if he does that is a shit load of money to trust him with. also i guarantee he is going to try to convince me i don't need anything other than nolv/clom

if anyone wants to pm the new douchebag with 3 whole posts, i have a question.

(it's about my girlfriend)

like i know where the "spot" is... i just wanna make sure i'm tending to it correctly.

and i don't want her to break up with me cuz her vag is bomb

[Wallstreetbully]

Great read

[Wallstreetbully]

Great read for sure

[Wallstreetbully]

I still have questions tho ...lol

[Wallstreetbully]

I need to show this to all the guys in my gym

[scaredgf]

HELP PLEASE!!!
my boyfriend started a few weeks ago. i dont know the brand. all i know is there is a pink needle and blue needle. well the pink one he uses to draw the drug in. that needle BROKE! and he couldnt twist off the pink cap. thd 1cc dripped out while trying to get cap off. finally got the cap off and put the blue needle on the syringe. theres anout 1/2 cc i think he said. his friend who introduced him to the steroid said to inject whatrver he can. he now needs new pink needles and hes worried about fucking up his body even more!! PLEASE HELP! IM SERIOUSLY BEGGING FOR ANY REPLYS

[Sipqis]

Awesome post, I have gained a tremendous amount of knowledge from this post thank you Austin!

[kelkel]

Awesome post, I have gained a tremendous amount of knowledge from this post thank you Austin!

Now read the rest of the database for even more knowledge:



Austinite's Educational Article Database

[KurtMiles]

Excellent information. This lays out in pretty clear detail how some of this works. Thank you

[Titaniumitor]

Hi Austinite , thankyou so much for the above post , I didnt know much about steroids and so i just followed the instructions in your post and fortunately my body tolerates Test E just fine.(kindly let me know if ther's some book or definitive online source where I can learn more about steroids , thanks )
I have a few questions.
Iam in my 6th week of test E (along with Armidrex) And I can buy either Dbol (Oral 10 mg) or Primobolan (injectable 10 mg)as well. I havent bought it yet it since Im not sure how to ,one , stack it with the test e , and two the appropriate dosage .Can you please help me out here Austinite ? Should I run a Dbol or Primo 100 only cycle ? How much should I take ? Injectable or Oral ? My current cycle is test E 250 every 3.5 days and armidrex 0.25 every alternate day.Can you please help me work out a healthy and appropriate Dbol/Primo m100 cycle , and as I know naught about steroids yet , so if theres additional testing or other details , please mention them too .Thanks buddy!!!!!!

[FRANKTHETANK604]

hey about to start my first ever cycle i have purchased everything that think i need and I wanted to just get a 2nd opinion from all of you people ... As i believe I have done my research i still am a bit worried...
this is what i would like to run...
Cycle #1
Anavar 50-80mg ED Weeks 1-8
Test Prop 500mg (100mg EOD) Weeks 1-8
HCG 500iu (250iu pinned Monday/Thursday)

Avena Sativa 2-4g ED Weeks 1-8
NAC 600MG Twice ED Weeks 1-8

Clomid 70/70/35/35
Nolvadex Breakdown
40/20/20/20mg

.....
The few things I'm worried about as well as the noob questions are...
Test prop, I purchased a bottle its 10ml. at 150mg/ml. Is 100 mg of test a lot to be doing every other day?... or should i start in smaller dosages?, like twice a week possibly? ... And what is with the test prop 500mg? ... I dont understand this what so ever? , Am i suppose to take 500 mg right off the hop?...
HCG , Ive had so many people tell me that the HCG doesn't have to be ran until later on in the cycle ? , as well I've heard that 500iu is too much to be doing per week, what are your guys thoughts on this?...
The anavar should i be running more ?, possibly 100 MG per day?
Ive tried finding the arena sativa everywhere and I can't... is that a make or break ? ... everything else i have purchased and ready to go...
as far as taking the climid and nolvadex, that should be done at the 8 week mark?, and how much and how long should I be taking these drugs for? ...

sorry for all the noob questions and i hope someone can answer this cause I'm wanting to start this today/tomorrow

thank you for everyones time

[numbere]

hey about to start my first ever cycle i have purchased everything that think i need and I wanted to just get a 2nd opinion from all of you people ... As i believe I have done my research i still am a bit worried...
this is what i would like to run...
Cycle #1
Anavar 50-80mg ED Weeks 1-8
Test Prop 500mg (100mg EOD) Weeks 1-8
HCG 500iu (250iu pinned Monday/Thursday)

Avena Sativa 2-4g ED Weeks 1-8
NAC 600MG Twice ED Weeks 1-8

Clomid 70/70/35/35
Nolvadex Breakdown
40/20/20/20mg

.....
The few things I'm worried about as well as the noob questions are...
Test prop, I purchased a bottle its 10ml. at 150mg/ml. Is 100 mg of test a lot to be doing every other day?... or should i start in smaller dosages?, like twice a week possibly? ... And what is with the test prop 500mg? ... I dont understand this what so ever? , Am i suppose to take 500 mg right off the hop?...
HCG , Ive had so many people tell me that the HCG doesn't have to be ran until later on in the cycle ? , as well I've heard that 500iu is too much to be doing per week, what are your guys thoughts on this?...
The anavar should i be running more ?, possibly 100 MG per day?
Ive tried finding the arena sativa everywhere and I can't... is that a make or break ? ... everything else i have purchased and ready to go...
as far as taking the climid and nolvadex, that should be done at the 8 week mark?, and how much and how long should I be taking these drugs for? ...

sorry for all the noob questions and i hope someone can answer this cause I'm wanting to start this today/tomorrow

thank you for everyones time

This is section is for conversing about topics directly related to the thread.

If you'd like some cycle advice then post your proposed cycle along with your stats, training and cycle history in a newly created thread in the Questions & Answers forum.

[mmigowski]

This is really useful and practical guide, thanks for taking time to write it.

My only confusion, based on stuff I have read is the HCG - I have been told to take both the Nolvadex and Clomid just like you are saying here as part of the PCT plan but then I have seen different views about when to take HCG. I have read to take it during the cycle, last 4 weeks of the cycle and I have also been told by a hormone specialist to take it as part of the PCT with Nolvadex and Clomid because his blood analysis suggested the recovery is much better when done as part of the HCG.

Thanks again for the info.

[kelkel]

Follow the guide as written. There's no reason to allow testicular production to totally shut down by waiting until the last 4 weeks of your cycle, unless of course you don't care about your boys. Your hormone specialist is a bit confused. HCG mimics LH production and is therefore suppressive to your bodies natural production. This means it's counter-productive to take it alongside SERMS. It defeats the purpose....