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    Bluewizza is offline New Member
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    what does everyone think of this cycle.

    Im 23, 195 pounds 11% fat, 5'7 hight. I wish to gain 20 pounds of muscle atleast, and lose 5 to 10 pounds of fat, during a 6 month phase where I will be training naturally for the next 3 months then I will go on the following 3 month cycle:

    week1-12> test prop. 525mg pw (75mg pd)
    week1-10> primo depot. 525mg pw (75mg pd)
    week1-9> deca 400mg pw
    week1-6> dianabol 350mg pw (50mg pd)
    week7-12> winny 350mg pw (50mg pd)
    week1-12> t3- 20mcg pd
    week1-12>hcg 750IU every 4 days
    week1-13> femera 2.5mg eod
    week14-16>clomid 100 to 50mg pd


    supplements> ala + milk thistle + glutamine + multi vitamins and minerals + creatine + aspirin eod during dbol weeks (to keep bp down)

    Diet> will be eating low to moderate carbs (only 30% of carbs will be simple sugar carbs) + high fats + very high protein....between 4000 cals in the begining of the steroid cycle and ending around 5000 calories

    Now I do have a few specific questions, hope someone can give their opinions:
    #1> I am prone to acne, but not severely. I am off of everything now and have been taking antibiotics for the acne for about 3 months now. I fear that the medication will not be enough to prevent my acne during and/or after the cycle. So, I am tempted to take accutane with the cycle for straight six months (so keep going 3 more months after the cycle), at a low dose of 40mg pd. Now what are the chances that I will do alot of damadge to the liver during the cycle, considering that im taking milk thistle and ala throughout? Can I use accutane during the cycle, combined with the antibiotic erythromyocin?
    #2> considering my test and dbol dosages and hcg dosage, do you think the femera is enough for preventing any apparent water bloat, at that 2.5mg eod dose?
    #3>Should I add nolvadex 10mg per day for the whole cycle to protect the levels of good cholesterol? Can it help, without hindering gains in any way?
    #4> Can my goals be achievable with that cycle? I think they can be!

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    must be nice to afford it

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    Re: what does everyone think of this cycle.

    Originally posted by Bluewizza
    #1> I am prone to acne, but not severely. I am off of everything now and have been taking antibiotics for the acne for about 3 months now. I fear that the medication will not be enough to prevent my acne during and/or after the cycle. So, I am tempted to take accutane with the cycle for straight six months (so keep going 3 more months after the cycle), at a low dose of 40mg pd. Now what are the chances that I will do alot of damadge to the liver during the cycle, considering that im taking milk thistle and ala throughout? Can I use accutane during the cycle, combined with the antibiotic erythromyocin?
    #2> considering my test and dbol dosages and hcg dosage, do you think the femera is enough for preventing any apparent water bloat, at that 2.5mg eod dose?
    #3>Should I add nolvadex 10mg per day for the whole cycle to protect the levels of good cholesterol? Can it help, without hindering gains in any way?
    #4> Can my goals be achievable with that cycle? I think they can be!
    1.) bad idea to take a drug like accutane for 6 months straight...even with protectants, you are going to be using 17aa's and possibly get some weird interactions in the liver. deal with the acne later if you want your liver to keep functioning since this is a prolonged cycle.

    2.) that should be enough to run even at your peak, however play it by ear in case you need to tweak.

    3.) i would have nolva on hand, but no need to run it throughout. overkill imo since u are using HCG/Femara

    4.) yes, your goals are able to be achieved with this cycle, however i would modify the T3 dosage...20mcg/day is nothing bro, it needs to be at least 125mcg/day after you taper up.

    do some research before you add T3 in because it isn't something to mess around with.

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    you obviously did ur research well and im glad to see u did that. im very jealous though becuz, #1

    #1 hmm, wow u mus tbe rich or come from a rich family.

    #2 ur cycle is totally not nesccesary for what u want to achieve.
    just do test, like test enth or sus or prop for 10 weeks. do the deca at 400mg/ew for 10 weeks as well

    #3. ur taking to high a dose of d-bol for a begginer. 40 mg is the max a begginer should dare to go. 50 mg/ed is bad for ur liver even with thistle.

    #4u dont need hcg for what ur doing, its a total waste of money !

    well u know what man, do what u want actually. ur cycle is way to exotic for me to bother fulyl deciphring, but it looks good, i checked the dosages and their fine. u'll get nothing short of results, but a cycle that large reminds me of the term "juice monkey". good luck and best wishes bro.

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    wow how much is this cycle setting you back? primo for 10 wks @ 525mg/wk alone is gonna cost quite abit...agree with gundam that the hcg is a waste, and that 50mg/day d-bol is excessive...also is this your first journey to the dark side?

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    as a former accutane user, i would advise that u don't use it during the cycle.. especially at 40mgs per day ... decide what your priorities are, either getting big, or keeping off the acne. then decide what your going to do. if u dropped the dbol and winny completely out of the cycle then 20-40mgs a day wouldn't be a bad option (except i don't know how it might react with the t3)..

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