Why do people on here say steroids doesnt make ur jaw bigger? (pics)

[sikkestkuntouthere]

another 1 at 21





how did this happen^

[chi]

GRowth and not AAS, depending on dosing and length on, can cause increased jaw line. You also don't know if he had chosen to get elective surgery and get a chin implant.

[Java Man]

Because they don't. How do you know the shape of this jaw has anything to do with anything other than genetics? At 18, a lot of change is still going to take place structurally in a male. Bone maturity doesn't occur until mid 20's on average.

[Cuz]

not another one of these ...

[>Good Luck<]

Everyone knows your eyebrow grows, your chin grows and your dicky shrinks and you grow boobs from steroids . Oh and you'll exert extreme force for every day activities like opening doors and putting away groceries

[reiss c]

His bodyfat % is a lot lower in the after photos. Lowering your bodyfat makes your jaw show a lot more


And I believe steroids don't. Make the jaw line bigger growth hormone does

[crazy mike]

You're too young to know what your body is doing yet. At this age nothing can be seen as how you were or weren't going to develop. However one things that we all seem to agree on is 18-24 is usually too young to start and can just screw you up one way or another. ...crazy mike

[AlphaMike]

Is that you in the pics? Because if not, you have no idea what other stuff that guy was doing.

[Cuz]

Is that you in the pics? Because if not, you have no idea what other stuff that guy was doing.

I can guarantee you that its not him lol

[Buster Brown]

Looks like he lost some baby fat around the neck and jawline which would make his jawline look more pronounced.

[AlphaMike]

Looks like he lost some baby fat around the neck and jawline which would make his jawline look more pronounced.

That, and it appears he's wearing make up as well. OP why exactly do you think this guy was on gear? Because if our chins really did grow on gear there'd be alot of silly lookin mofos walkin around.

[Cuz]

That, and it appears he's wearing make up as well. OP why exactly do you think this guy was on gear? Because if our chins really did grow on gear there'd be alot of silly lookin mofos walkin around.

This was Aziz Shavershian, a young aspiring bodybuilder that died at 22. he used gear, and yeah, probably used makeup too lol.

[clarky.]

Yes this will happen to you if you use AAS before you are 25+

[MuscleInk]

No, that's the idiot many of us here chose not to talk about. A lot of the young guys are enamored with him but we sort have an unwritten rule here that we don't discuss that guy.

Agreed, you can get more acromegaly from abuse of GH than AAS.

Is that you in the pics? Because if not, you have no idea what other stuff that guy was doing.

[Euroholic]

No, that's the idiot many of us here chose not to talk about. A lot of the young guys are enamored with him but we sort have an unwritten rule here that we don't discuss that guy.

Agreed, you can get more acromegaly from abuse of GH than AAS.

I have to disagree mate. The person in question is the opposite of a idiot. He had personality and a general positive attitude. Most of those so called fans are the idiots ill argee on that. The fact he died 2 years ago and were still talking about him says alot of his character.

[poppz]

This was Aziz Shavershian, a young aspiring bodybuilder that died at 22. he used gear, and yeah, probably used makeup too lol.

Lol.

[MuscleInk]

This topic has been widely debated. You know that. I'm not going to get into a discussion about some young arrogant punk ass who was an abusive drug user. There are far better role models than that kid who wasted his own life out of pure ignorance.

I have to disagree mate. The person in question is the opposite of a idiot. He had personality and a general positive attitude. Most of those so called fans are the idiots ill argee on that. The fact he died 2 years ago and were still talking about him says alot of his character.

[MuscleInk]

Yes, and people still talk about Charlie Manson too. You going to tell me just because someone is a topic of conversation he must be revered? Give me a break.

People talk about a lot of people. That in no way means someone should be idolized for stupidity.

I have to disagree mate. The person in question is the opposite of a idiot. He had personality and a general positive attitude. Most of those so called fans are the idiots ill argee on that. The fact he died 2 years ago and were still talking about him says alot of his character.

[Java Man]

I have to disagree mate. The person in question is the opposite of a idiot. He had personality and a general positive attitude. Most of those so called fans are the idiots ill argee on that. The fact he died 2 years ago and were still talking about him says alot of his character.

The fact that he died two years ago and occasionally someone brings him up has to do with the fact that he had a heart condition, abused steroids and god knows what else, and ended up dead at 22. That's abnormal, so people talk about it. It's not a character statement about a great guy and role model. Sometimes you say sh!t that really causes me to contemplate your sanity.

[austinite]

I have to disagree mate. The person in question is the opposite of a idiot. He had personality and a general positive attitude. Most of those so called fans are the idiots ill argee on that. The fact he died 2 years ago and were still talking about him says alot of his character.

Look at OP's age, and look at every single OP in any thread about this fool. Kids love this kind of stuff, and that's fine. But that is the reason he is spoken of 2 years after death. They'll all grow out of it one day. Being social is not an accomplishment, Euro. This is why it has more to do with age. Young kids love the "popularity". It's like todays garbage music videos, No different. Anyone who gets attention get's spoken of. But what accomplishments on the resume'? Nothing.

[Jonathan12]

Look at OP's age, and look at every single OP in any thread about this fool. Kids love this kind of stuff, and that's fine. But that is the reason he is spoken of 2 years after death. They'll all grow out of it one day. Being social is not an accomplishment, Euro. This is why it has more to do with age. Young kids love the "popularity". It's like todays garbage music videos, No different. Anyone who gets attention get's spoken of. But what accomplishments on the resume'? Nothing.

Word.
She said it all.

[Euroholic]

^^^^^^^^ Well maybe it is a age thing that seams to be the case. But the fact remains if a guy dies doing what he enjoys who cares. A surfer getting eaten by a shark. A guy who's parachute does not open. Or a guy who likes rec drugs. Not everyone want to live to 50 years old.

[songdog]

He has been gone for 2yrs and we still got to see pics of him.SAD!

[Cuz]

lol at "she"

[Euroholic]

The guy is not a role model of mine but i respect how someone loves life and does what they want to do.

[austinite]

^^^^^^^^ Well maybe it is a age thing that seams to be the case. But the fact remains if a guy dies doing what he enjoys who cares. A surfer getting eaten by a shark. A guy who's parachute does not open. Or a guy who likes rec drugs. Not everyone want to live to 50 years old.

lol, off the wall reply man. I never said anything about dying young. Not sure why the other references are about. Who cares is correct. We can agree on that!

[Cuz]

im just gonna watch this thread from ringside

[Euroholic]

Lets just lock the thread i don't like to talk about "that guy" but I'm not a hater of his.

[austinite]

F^&#$ Me! I thought the "thing" in the pics was a broad! It's really a guy?

[Fcastle357]

lol at "she"

X2..... And fight the good fight euro you always make me laugh. I probably wouldn't spend so much time in here if it wasn't for you.

[Euroholic]

F^&#$ Me! I thought the "thing" in the pics was a broad! It's really a guy?

Youl think im crazy but side by side dlb and old mate look the same to me. Same hair same build. Same skin tone.

[titan2013]

What happened to this thread lol

[austinite]

Youl think im crazy but side by side dlb and old mate look the same to me. Same hair same build. Same skin tone.

Blasphemy. I never mentioned your mom.

[Fcastle357]

Youl think im crazy but side by side dlb and old mate look the same to me. Same hair same build. Same skin tone.

Lol euro with a left hook

[Euroholic]

Blasphemy. I never mentioned your mom.

Hahaha my "MUM"

[MuscleInk]

Right? Not everyone wants to live until they're 50? Wow.....tell that the the 26 year old single mom of three children treated at my clinic who died in August from stage 4 colorectal cancer. I guarantee she would have switched places with anyone just to live another 24 years.

lol, off the wall reply man. I never said anything about dying young. Not sure why the other references are about. Who cares is correct. We can agree on that!

[Euroholic]

Right? Not everyone wants to live until they're 50? Wow.....tell that the the 26 year old single mom of three children treated at my clinic who died in August from stage 4 colorectal cancer. I guarantee she would have switched places with anyone just to live another 24 years.

Everyone is different!!!!! We all have different wants,needs, values etc.

[MuscleInk]

I'm sorry but I really question anyone who doesn't value life. Yes, you're entitled to your opinion and I won't condemn you for your view or belief. Everyone has different beliefs, faiths, and moral compasses, but I am of the opinion you get one life to live and hopefully each of us makes the best of it and doesn't squander it. I have lost many people close to me that I would rather have had for a longer time and no amount of explanation or justification can bring a catharsis in those cases, but anyone who is cavalier about the gift of life, perhaps shouldn't have it at all.

Everyone is different!!!!! We all have different wants,needs, values etc.

[Euroholic]

I'm sorry but I really question anyone who doesn't value life. Yes, you're entitled to your opinion and I won't condemn you for your view or belief. Everyone has different beliefs, faiths, and moral compasses, but I am of the opinion you get one life to live and hopefully each of us makes the best of it and doesn't squander it. I have lost many people close to me that I would rather have had for a longer time and no amount of explanation or justification can bring a catharsis in those cases, but anyone who is cavalier about the gift of life, perhaps shouldn't have it at all.

Whos to say life is a gift? being dead could be better you just dont no. All im saying is there a people who like to just live on a whim and not worry if they get old or not. But anyway lets just leave it at that.

[John Andrew]

Sorry,
I've spent years of my life counselling addicts and alcoholics, I have had to sit with them as they died, do you think it's what they wanted? I even had to listen to a crying man, sobbing as he shot himself in the head. He did not want his mother to find his body!

He was crying because he lacked the courage to do what he had to do to live.
Watch some children die, hold a dying child! Then you can say as you wish! John