Beware of UGL: Chemical Muscle - Worrisome Recent Events - Contaminated Gear

***Admin*** · 11-09-2013, 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by GlockBAK8811

Good god. I'm learning from this situation that it seems money/business drives this forum more than I realized in the past based on peoples comments here. Thanks to those who offer advice without aulterior motives.

This is the reason that we have the rules in place of NO sourcing... and when people are sourcing of course they are going to attack my staff to protect their income... They were making a lot of money according to people who have come forward in this thread alone... so of course they are not happy with losing business from here... this has been brought to us in the past and promises of it not going on were believed and look what has now happened and here we are trying once again to protect our valued members from health issues... and no I am not saying all persons will end up with health issues but we do know some have at this time...

Much Respect

*admin*

**Euroholic** · 11-09-2013, 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by *Admin*

Oh he will be... just a matter of time... I am allowing him to make a few posts... but using our pm system to source was not a good idea... as you never know when you may talk to the wrong person that is willing to forward pm's to admin... Let this be a lesson to members what was done is against the rules...

Also the owner of CM who has posted in this thread will be banned as well... several reps have already been banned and others are to come... I do want to say thank you to each of you that has forwarded information and proof of what you had to say... this is never easy and a part of my job I hate but do when needed with confidence after much research.

Much Respect

*admin*

Pimpin aint easy admin. Good job for keeping the site alive. My hat is doffed to you bra.

have a good Saturday night

**1tuffmudder** · 11-09-2013, 12:46 AM

Originally Posted by Euroholic

I only saw the first one. Have you seen them all. Are they good?

Only the first two hold merit. The rest are garbage.

**Euroholic** · 11-09-2013, 12:57 AM

I want to ask a question about the contamination but i dont want to get in trouble!!!!!!!! Permision to speak freely please staff?

***Admin*** · 11-09-2013, 12:58 AM

proceed if it is against policy I will pm and delete the post.

AD · 11-09-2013, 01:05 AM

They make good money by pushing dangerous and illegal drugs? Damn I'm in the wrong profession.

**Euroholic** · 11-09-2013, 01:06 AM

Is it possable the contamination was a accident? Like the seller did not no the gear was unsafe? Basicly im asking is the banning for selling/repping bad gear or for pm sourcing about gear? My inquisitive mind always gets the better of me

Cheers

**Hazard** · 11-09-2013, 01:15 AM

Originally Posted by Euroholic

Is it possable the contamination was a accident? Like the seller did not no the gear was unsafe? Basicly im asking is the banning for selling/repping bad gear or for pm sourcing about gear? My inquisitive mind always gets the better of me

Cheers

I certainly would HOPE it was an accident. I'm sure it was because infections are bad for business.

We have proof that certain members here were actively seeking members for CM. they were repping..... Either getting free product or discounts in return.

They broke forum rules...... That's why they were banned. Mind you..... Some knew who the reps were before all this came to light. They dug their own holes.

***Admin*** · 11-09-2013, 01:16 AM

The banning has nothing to do with the contaminated gear.... It is because we do not allow sourcing on this board which was clearly done via our pm system which is another rule which was broken as well which puts us all at risk..

As for did the source know the gear was contaminated, yes I do believe he did as there is more than one person that has stated they told him about it... whether he meant for it to be or not is not the question (I would assume not) but as soon as he was told he should have shut down and taken care of the situation instead of proceeding like all was well... greed stands in the way of some...

I know of a reputable source that had a issue similar that did a recall of all his prop... resent it to all that had ordered in a 3 month time period and asked them to trash what they had as he feared a contamination... That is good business practice... did it cost him a profit... of course but it saved his business and rep.

Now do we have sources on this board yes of course we do I am sure and they do not cross the line at all or if they do they have never been caught... if they are they will not be here... It is a rule that has been in place and when CM decided to come here and ignore our rules he was put on the radar along with each of his reps...

Hope this helps you to understand...

Respect

*admin*

**Euroholic** · 11-09-2013, 01:21 AM

Thanks for taking the time admin cheers!!!

**Hazard** · 11-09-2013, 01:23 AM

^^^^ that summed it up. He was warned some batches were contaminated..... He didn't do anything about it. So yea he KNEW but I don't think it was brewed with intent to harm. It's be a horrible business plan.

**crazy mike** · 11-09-2013, 01:30 AM

I knew nothing of this contamination and the other threads talking about the contamination. I haven't been in touch with CM for a long while. I never repped this thing about contamination and since. In my defense Admin and you guys , tonight is the first I've heard of it. Tonight on this thread.

All my mistakes or rule breaking was long ago and not current at all. Nothing with this issue now, so please back of this stuff today, Please? ...crazy mike

**Hazard** · 11-09-2013, 01:38 AM

Originally Posted by crazy mike

I had heard nothing about this. ....crazy mike

Also you all know my PM has been off for a long time now. Since all the mess I thought is was over.

I'm referring to Erik

***Admin*** · 11-09-2013, 01:41 AM

Erik needs to make a comment... Mike you have no reason to comment further on this thread...

**Euroholic** · 11-09-2013, 01:44 AM

Who is erik?

BG · 11-09-2013, 07:13 AM

Originally Posted by Euroholic

Who is erik?

The owner of CM.....he is a member here and if you pay attention to this thread you could figure it out.

People you have to truly understand we are here for you guys, sounds funny but thats how it ends up when you become staff. We are obligated (out of our own will) to keep things safe. You have to think, all we do is read post and monitor whats going on, we pick up on things early on, you would be surprised. Its sort of a game to us, see who can find the source or rep first....its fun. We get a lot of help from members also and we thank them for that. We have no vested interest here but our time, which is precious so we take it seriously. Its a shame things get messy, but like Admin commented, when theres a lot of money involved sources do whatever then can and first thing they go for is staffs credibility.....its a shame. Soon it will be time time to move on and await the next problem.

BTW been waiting to say this for a long time......see ya CrazyMike, take your dumbass bullshit somewhere else, we have had our fair share.

**Lunk1** · 11-09-2013, 07:13 AM

Stupid FUKS!

**Lunk1** · 11-09-2013, 07:16 AM

Originally Posted by BG

The owner of CM.....he is a member here and if you pay attention to this thread you could figure it out.

People you have to truly understand we are here for you guys, sounds funny but thats how it ends up when you become staff. We are obligated (out of our own will) to keep things safe. You have to think, all we do is read post and monitor whats going on, we pick up on things early on, you would be surprised. Its sort of a game to us, see who can find the source or rep first....its fun. We get a lot of help from members also and we thank them for that. We have no vested interest here but our time, which is precious so we take it seriously. Its a shame things get messy, but like Admin commented, when theres a lot of money involved sources do whatever then can and first thing they go for is staffs credibility.....its a shame. Soon it will be time time to move on and await the next problem.

BTW been waiting to say this for a long time......see ya CrazyMike, take your dumbass bullshit somewhere else, we have had our fair share.

Amen. Can we delete his lame ass interview as well?

BG · 11-09-2013, 07:22 AM

Lmao@Lame ass interview....still laughing.

**Lunk1** · 11-09-2013, 07:31 AM

I love watching the list of who has been watching this thread like a hawk and not saying a fukn word. Speak your peace about how good your gear is then hit the bricks!

**clarky.** · 11-09-2013, 07:33 AM

Hi guys is this cm ugl just state side ? I've never heard of it over here.

**Capebuffalo** · 11-09-2013, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by Euroholic

Who is erik?

My guess is BBJT200. Am I correct?

**Lunk1** · 11-09-2013, 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by clarky.

Hi guys is this cm ugl just state side ? I've never heard of it over here.

Yeah buddy. I believe it's just a meth cook...I mean steroid lab in someone's garage in either Florida or Vegas if I was a betting man.

**clarky.** · 11-09-2013, 07:42 AM

Lol Cheers mate it was just so I could make ppl aware of this if I ever here of ppl using them

AD · 11-09-2013, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

I love watching the list of who has been watching this thread like a hawk and not saying a fukn word. Speak your peace about how good your gear is then hit the bricks!

I keep coming back here to see if any other supporters get the boot. But it seems like it's just mike.

**Lunk1** · 11-09-2013, 08:08 AM

I think the one I was talking about just realized you can see members in a thread. 1st time I have seen him disappear.

**Fcastle357** · 11-09-2013, 08:10 AM

I know this is a question for the lab but can you sterilize gear in an oven. Or is pressure cooker the only way to go

**Capebuffalo** · 11-09-2013, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by Fcastle357

I know this is a question for the lab but can you sterilize gear in an oven. Or is pressure cooker the only way to go

Poor mans way is on the stove top. Saffron oil 3/4 up the vial in a pot. Heat to 450 for 45 min. Auto clave #1 Pressure Cooker #2

**austinite** · 11-09-2013, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by BBJT200

If this truly is a threat, I'd like the proof so I can justify trashing my oils. If not, I'm going to continue using them as I have been. At that point I'm not even going to bother posting here anymore....there's a lot of good resources for information here, but there appears to be a hidden agenda that is not compatible with a "unbiased steroid information website"

If anyone received any advice from this clown, please ignore it and seek help elsewhere. Literally one of the least informed and common-sense-lacking individuals I have yet to encounter online. Likely underdeveloped or damaged cerebral cortex.

AD · 11-09-2013, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

I think the one I was talking about just realized you can see members in a thread. 1st time I have seen him disappear.

Lol. You scared him off. I wish I wasn't on my phone.

**Fcastle357** · 11-09-2013, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

Poor mans way is on the stove top. Saffron oil 3/4 up the vial in a pot. Heat to 450 for 45 min. Auto clave #1 Pressure Cooker #2

Thanks cape. Looks like a pressure cooker might be my next purchase.

**Lunk1** · 11-09-2013, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by Fcastle357

Thanks cape. Looks like a pressure cooker might be my next purchase.

You can always use it to can tomatoes later

***Admin*** · 11-09-2013, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by AD

I keep coming back here to see if any other supporters get the boot. But it seems like it's just mike.

Nope there have been others along the way

as well as the multi accounts that these guys have been using to rep and or ref themselves...

Originally Posted by Fcastle357

Thanks cape. Looks like a pressure cooker might be my next purchase.

Curious have you asked for a refund (would be safest move)and if so what were you told?

**Lunk1** · 11-09-2013, 08:29 AM

When the smoke clears, I think a list of all those involved would be helpful so that any member who dealt with them can know they were dealing with a scammer. That and I'm nosey lol.

**clarky.** · 11-09-2013, 08:37 AM

A list would be good I'm not nosey just interested

***Admin*** · 11-09-2013, 10:27 AM

I do want to clear up a few things that have been said...

First of all this website has no vested interest in any pharmacy UGL or otherwise that sell gear!

Yes, We do have a Legit pharmacy on here note on Legit! (need for a prescription) meaning NO gear sold so NO not a reason to feel that ugl's are our competition as has been stated.

LowT has no interest in UGL's at all and is a totally different thing from a ugl and again not in competition with UGL's as has been stated...

We are not a source board and have no vested interest in any gear sold we are here for information and to help advise members... When we find information that can harm a member we will expose it or at best remove the threat to our members... this has been common practice here for years now... so when a source comes here and try's to sell dirty gear or good gear we will remove them if they are breaking the rules! for no other reason but for breaking the rules!

Are there sources here I am sure... are they sourcing here NO! not if they intend to stay here... end of story! If and when caught they are removed.

Now what would be the first thing that any source would say if caught by staff... that staff is liars and that staff is unfair and they are this and they are that... of course they will they are losing money from the moment they are tossed out on their ass... Now good or bad it is not my business... that is up to any member here if they want to follow a source... However Please do not bash my staff for doing their job and/or reporting dangers that could harm others...

Now as for us deleting threads about the source or the product... again remember we are not a source board and we do not promote sources so we remove all information about them good bad or bad as we do not want the attention from the search engines about them... it is a safety issue nothing more. If I feel the information is relevant and needs to be shared I will... as I never delete the information (thread or post) I simply remove it to a safe place.

We do not take this lightly and do research things before we act... and I do not ban unless I have positive information.

**EasyDoesIt** · 11-09-2013, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

Yeah buddy. I believe it's just a meth cook...I mean steroid lab in someone's garage in either Florida or Vegas if I was a betting man.

I'm in Vegas and never heard of it, i would have heard of it here by now. Vegas is one of those big small towns. Probably Florida as one of the members in question (reps) hometown is listed there.. There is a home brewer on every corner here in Vegas.

I did a search on CM and the posts here on this forum are by members in question talking about how great the product is and one of them states how he has nothing to gain by talking about how good it is. Marcus clearly states it is dirty gear and not to use it. Good job staff!

**GirlyGymRat** · 11-09-2013, 11:23 AM

this board does right by its members

**clarky.** · 11-09-2013, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by EasyDoesIt

I'm in Vegas and never heard of it, i would have heard of it here by now. Vegas is one of those big small towns. Probably Florida as one of the members in question (reps) hometown is listed there.. There is a home brewer on every corner here in Vegas.

I did a search on CM and the posts here on this forum are by members in question talking about how great the product is and one of them states how he has nothing to gain by talking about how good it is. Marcus clearly states it is dirty gear and not to use it. Good job staff!

If you google cm this very thread comes up

**EasyDoesIt** · 11-09-2013, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by clarky.

If you google cm this very thread comes up

I did google it and that's where I found the earlier posts from this forum talking about how they loved their products. Low and behold a few months later...
Thanks