Thread: 2nd cycle, thoughts?
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01-07-2014, 12:42 AM #1New Member
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2nd cycle, thoughts?
25 year old male, 26 in a couple months
lifting for 7+ years
Used to be a personal trainer
175 lbs
5'9"
8-9%bf (average)
Hello Everyone,
This will be my first post here, have already read lots on this forum including the "first cycle" sticky. Last year I did a short 8 week cycle of Test Prop as my first cycle (big mistake, hated the EOD pins). With a simple AI and Nolva pct. This year I figured why not, I'll spend a good amount of money, do a ton more research and really do it right. Currently on it's way are:
1 box of Test E Testoviron Depot from Bayer Shering, 20 amps 250 mg each.
5 boxes of 2.5 mg 50 count Bonavar anavar (still deciding how I will include this, but will mention later)
Any number of 5000 IU HCG amps, i'm thinking I will just get enough for 400 iu's a week for ~12 weeks
PCT - Nolva/Clomid will most likely stick to the numbers that Austin has posted in the first cycle sticky.
Things I am concerned about:
Should I be using Syringe filters: is it worth it? Why?
Getting an infection: if I do, what do I say to a doctor?
Anavar: I have read LOTS, and TRUE anavar which I believe I have, I do not need more than 20mg a day. Should I split it in the beginning of my cycle (3 weeks) and then at the end of my cycle (3 weeks), I have heard that this is easier on the liver.
Liver Protection: Is Milk Thistle enough?
Privacy: Do I just tell people that I started taking creatine? (yes that's a joke, kind of)
The purpose of the Anavar is to stay lean and cut (obviously) I just don't want to get the bloated look. I am not going for size. The purpose of this cycle is to gain a decent amount of weight 8-10 lbs of lean solid muscle. And to keep as much as I can.
Breakdown:
weeks:
1-10 Test E I am thinking once a week pin 500mg OR twice a week 250 mg each (thoughts?)
1-3 15 mg Anavar
7-10 15 mg Anavar (i'll be short 5 mg's with what I have)
1-12 HCG 400 IU a week, twice a week 200 IU pins (sticky says 500 IU but I am lower weight than recommended and I did not seem too prone to shrinking testes/gyno when I took the prop)
1-12 Arimidex .25 EOD
and follow the sticky for the nolva/clomid PCT
Any information and constructive criticism always welcome. Just trying to learn more and do this right. I think most of the comments will be about the Anavar dosage and whether or not mine is real. This is not my primary concern, but if any of you have heard of Bonavar I would be happy to hear your opinion on it, especially if you have used it in the past.
Looking forward to your responses. Thanks!
Also, if I'm not supposed to post brand names or anything I will remove them. I wasn't too sure on that.
-KFLast edited by husky88; 01-07-2014 at 08:01 PM.
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01-07-2014, 07:03 AM #2New Member
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01-07-2014, 06:30 PM #4New Member
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I will be doing that as well. I always do cardio, I am already quite lean. I could probably bulk up a bit, but I want to keep my vascularity. The anavar is just a bonus for me, I am really just worried about the rest of the cycle. Along with the concerns that I listed. I have seen you post a lot on here, could you possibly advise me on my proposed cycle? I am doing this solo, have read a lot and have come up with this schedule. It's quite mind numbing, for me at least to not tell anyone about this and to be doing it alone : /. But am very dedicated to doing it.
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01-07-2014, 07:03 PM #5
Post a pic.I want too see 8 or 9% bf plz
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01-07-2014, 07:10 PM #6New Member
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Last edited by husky88; 01-07-2014 at 07:53 PM.
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01-07-2014, 07:11 PM #7
lol. get em tiger.
OP, you gotta up that var, you might as well piss out the window with 15mg a day. I think pharm grade id still run 50mg. 100mg ugl ED
Filters? I don't know, your guess is as good as mine
If you get infected, tell doc u shot b12
NAC 1800 a day for liv
Yes, tell them you take creatine, although you said you don't want to bulk much. imo, 10lbs lbm is a solid gain on a cycle.
Ok, doublecheck your PCT (standard protocol), check your AI (.25 dex eod), check your HCG ( 500 iu/week). good to go.
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01-07-2014, 07:14 PM #9New Member
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I have decided to make an account and post on this forum because everyone seemed very informative and smart. I have read through several forums to come to this conclusion. I understand that many people many cycles and the advice they are given is to be all natural and work on their diet. I truly understand this. But I have made the decision to do this and I want to do it right. I am taking as many precautions as I can, and if this forum can't help me, then I guess I have to try another. I don't want to sound like an ass, I really just want some foresight into what I am doing as I am doing this alone. And I hate doing things alone haha
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01-07-2014, 07:58 PM #14
You are getting help, it may not be what you wanted to hear.
Scotch gave you all good advice.
The anavar is a waste at that dose. I wouldn't even take it, save it for another time when you have more
also i would add an AI to the cycle. I didnt notice one in thereIf people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong
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REALLY excited for this cycle. I think all my gear is good, well at least I hope so. So maybe I should taper my anavar intake? Maybe build it up and then drop it down? in the beginning or end? Middle? Am i allowed to post a youtube video I saw that seemed very informative about anavar?
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Yup added the Arimidex , forgot to list it.
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