first cycle thoughts??? !!! help

[huge12]

help with a first cycle dont want anything that will make me too big but i want to gain about 10-15. I have dbol and equi right now but i know that doesnt go together really well. so can i get some help with this one.
age-24 ht-5'11 wt-205 this would be 1st cycle been training for about 5 years. BF-15%

[DADDYDBOL]

can you get test?

[huge12]

ya i prob could but wat dosages and needle size should i use? 22,23,25? and would that be the way to go. get test?

[Rickson]

I have to be honest with you. If you put on 15lbs of muscle in ten weeks everyone you know is going to notice. If you are worried about putting on too much size I would reconsider using steroids at all.

If you decide to go forward then I would run something like this:

1-4 35mg a day of dbol
1-10 500mg of test (single ester) a week
1-10 400mg of EQ a week

[Billy_Bathgate]

500 test for 10wks
anti-es
post-clomid

25g 1" or maybe 1.5" for glutes

[H.pYl0ri]

I would say add some enanthate .

Dbol 30mg/d wks 1-4
enanthate 500mg/wk wks 1-13
Eq 400mg/wk wks 1-12
Ldex .25 mg ED wks 1-16
Clomid 100mg/ED wk14
75mg/ED wk15
50mg/ED wk 16
and get some nolvadex too. You might need it.

here's a thread you can look at.

http://anabolicreview.com/vbulletin/...threadid=16189

[DADDYDBOL]

You could run 500mgs of enthanate a week for say 10 weeks and run the eq at 50mgs a day thru the whole cycle. The dbol can be used to jumpstart the cycle but i have read some of the guys have gotten really good results from running the dbol at the end. Basically it gives a good kick when you are really saturated with test. It makes sense. I use 25g every where but thats because I try to avoid scar tissue. Since I usually inject myself I stick to the quads and it will take a few seconds for it to go in. On the dbol I would only do about 30mgs a day. What kind of dbol do you have?

[superjew]

I'm gonna go with B.B. on this one. I'd go with straight Test. for 10 weeks at 400-500mgs. I'm inclined to believe that anything more would be overkill, considering your goals.

[huge12]

wat about just equi and test and get rid of the dbol how would that do and run equi 400mg week 1-10, and test enanthate 500mg 1-12

[Billy_Bathgate]

run the eq at 50mgs a day thru the whole cycle

thats very unnessicary. 200-300mg 2x a week is just fine, dont need to take ED shots of that.

[huge12]

i would be happy with 5-10lbs and a cut look so im not in search of a huge gain here

[huge12]

soo what are your takes on this just test enathate, test and equi, or all 3

[Billy_Bathgate]

Originally posted by huge12
wat about just equi and test and get rid of the dbol how would that do and run equi 400mg week 1-10, and test enanthate 500mg 1-12

Thats fine, or run the EQ for 12wks as well.

[DADDYDBOL]

Yeh you just want hold as much water. That would mean the test for size and strength and the eq for quality plus it will help you keep your gains.

[Billy_Bathgate]

Originally posted by huge12
soo what are your takes on this just test enathate, test and equi, or all 3

Enanthate 500mg/wk for 10-12 wks is plenty for a first time. I personally wouldnt run the EQ my first time...maybe the dbol at a low dose like maybe 20-25mg for the first 4-6 wks, but its not realy nessicary either.

[DADDYDBOL]

Half life of eq isn't long so for the best results you need to run it ed.

[superjew]

I know more than a couple guys who have gained some good strength and size off of just one amp of Sustanon a week. If you are only looking for a 5-10 pound gain, this 800mgs. of gear a week is too much. It's not uncommon for someone to gain 30+ pounds on a cycle like that. You sound as though you just want a little boost, so skip the bigger cycles. Save it for later if your goals change.

[huge12]

would i keep my gains from the test enth 500 mg/wk for 10-12 and dbol 20mg for 4 or 5 weeks. and so should i use the 25 gauge for the test or somehting bigger

[huge12]

i was considering ur choice super jew but the problem is getting it. i have dbol test and equi right now thats why im centering it around these 3

[huge12]

wouldnt the equi give me that cut look im looking for though, at least thats what ive read up on.