Liver damage debate

[daVinci]

Ok, if you've been keeping up on the threads, you'll know that I'm currently doing an oral winny tab cycle 50mg/day, cycling in with clen /ECA/NYC/t3. Anyway, there has been much debate about liver damage when using winny, a 17aa steroid . My question is how would you gauge how your liver is handling the cycle? Some people seem to think that pain is a good indication, other people are convinced that you will not actually "feel" liver pain, as it is an organ and by the time you know you may have major problems on your hands (though in terms of kidney problems pain is usually a very good indicator that something is wrong). I am wondering if there is any way short of visiting a doctor and getting my liver values tested, that I would know if I'm having problems with it?

[popa]

getting it tested is the best thing you can do, just make sure that you take liver protectants through your cycle, treat it before the problem begins