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    Exclamation How does this sound?

    Looking for additional advice, when i was 24 and 25 I was a retard and ran a deca ,sus dbol cycle with out any pct both times.
    The first cycle did not give me gyno but it did make my nipples sensitive.
    The 2nd cycle gave me a marble size gyno in my right nipple (which is still present).
    Its been a year later and I can not put on weight at all. Ive decided to run a 3rd cycle the right way…how does this sound?
    Age:26, Height: 6ft, 160lbs, BFP 9%
    I ordered 2-10ml bottles of Sus 250mg, and 2-10ml deca 250mg. I also purchased nolvadex and clomid.
    How should i cycle it if i am sensitive to gyno? (low dose?) and do I run the Nolvadex from the get go and save the clomid for PCT?

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    Get rid of the gyno first

    And then spend some time in the kitchen..

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    ^^What Kronic said..........If you can't put on weight without AAS, then your diet sucks. Steroids won't magically make you a tank. You need to eat!!!

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    Go see a doctor about that Gyno. If you have had it as long as you say then a doctor is a must. You might be able to treat it yourself but I dont think you know what you are doing.

    NO WAY run the cycle you are planning. You don't know what you are doing. You dont have an AI to keep from getting gyno, no HCG , no eating program. Learn to eat and workout before you really mess yourself up with another cycle.

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    Take care of the gyno first. Then research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigTahl View Post
    Go see a doctor about that Gyno. If you have had it as long as you say then a doctor is a must. You might be able to treat it yourself but I dont think you know what you are doing.

    NO WAY run the cycle you are planning. You don't know what you are doing. You dont have an AI to keep from getting gyno, no HCG, no eating program. Learn to eat and workout before you really mess yourself up with another cycle.
    What is AI? And how will HCG prevent estrogen build up? The negative feed back that causes gyno is due to too much test, the hypothalamus tells our Ledig cells to stop making test, and our androgens start to convert test into estrogen which then binds to it's corresponding receptor cells. THATS why I was thinking of doing Nolvadex to block the receptors. Block receptors = no estrogen binding... I forgot to mention I'm Korean, so I can eat until I explode and I won't see a oz of gains. my diet is amazing. I eat at least 6-7 meals a day, 4x carb intake, right fats etc. I'm also a med student and I have already done a gland removal procedure on a cadaver, I know that the mammillary gland in a male is pointless, therefore I figured removing the gland is pointless seeing that it is unnoticeable. Now they don't teach us how to run successful cycles and that's why I posted on here.

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    Looks like you have some more reading to do, check the sticky's in the Q&A section and read them. You aren't understanding the reasoning for the things that were recommended to you, your med student learning is getting in the way of your comprehension of AAS and support compounds. Just my $.02.

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    If you ignore the info given here and take this cycle your gyno will more than likely be an immediate issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fit2bOld View Post
    If you ignore the info given here and take this cycle your gyno will more than likely be an immediate issue.
    Wow thanks a lot guys!
    I only mentioned that I was a Med-Student to emphasize my level of understandment with all the replies. I know the med field is anti-anabolics and that is why i came to this site. all information was great, its amazing how smart everyone is on here and I am still trying to learn how to do it right.
    HCG makes perfect sense and so does AI to avoid the binding process. Has anyone ever tried natural AIs? I was thinking of trying the DIM to see how my gyno reacts before deciding to run the cycle.
    My inpatients-ness wants to run AI, HCG and the cycle….how bad is that? I am really sick of not being able to put on mass and after reading the links I do feel like my Horrible cycles killed my leydig cells.

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    Also any suggestions on where to purchase HCG ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by markac2688 View Post
    Also any suggestions on where to purchase HCG?
    Bro you are getting ahead of yourself. Did you read the threads lovbyts provided in the 8th post? The only product you should be looking for is raloxifene and a physician who can give you a proper diagnosis.

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    Gyno sucks.. still trying to body sculpt the areas the surgeon wasn't perfect on.

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    Numbere: I continued reading the article thought that there is a section of natural forms of raloxifene? (dim)..I just assume when dealing with negative feedback of the hypothalamus you want to stay as natural as possible

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    DIM won't help with palpable gyno.
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