New Member......

[nybxprstud]

Hello Everyone, I have decided that I no longer will be a spectator, ....I am going to begin my first cycle of Testosterone Enanthate / Trenbolone Acetate. This venture begins Monday 7/28/2014. I plan to post updates frequently.... My Diet is clean and consistent with 3500 - 4000 calorie intake. 5-6 meals per day with additional supplementation. (Protein bars, steak, chicken fish, vitamin packs etc). I'm also having my doctor check my vitals (blood levels etc) while on the cycle. Over all goal large respectful build but portioned and super lean defined mass.
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Current Weight: 215 pounds Body Fat % : 23% Height : 6'0 Age: 33 Chest: 44-45 Arms: measurements to come Legs: measurements to come. Training History: 6-7years Sports: Street Handball, Tennis, bowling and soon to be swimming. Cycle History: None ....Totally Afraid of needles. Creeps me out Family genetics : Swimmers build and mostly Tall/Slim/Frames
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Cycle Details: *Week 1-12 Test-E (250mg/ml) 500mg Per Week. Mon-Thurs AM injections. 23 gage x 1 inch (2cc's) *Week 4-12 Tren Ace (250mg/ml) 500mg (2cc's) *Nolvadex , (Estrogen blocker) taken week 4-12 during Tren A

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Planning on a HGH / Test Cyc in January 2015
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Workout schedule "A"(6 Week Plan) Week 1: Supersets Week 2: Opposing Body Part Supersets Week 3: Tri-Sets Week 4: Tri-SuperSets Week 5: Extended Sets Week 6: Extended Sets / Superset Workout schedule "B"( 6Week Plan) Plan to Come

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Weekly View: Mondays: Chest and Tri's Tuesdays: Swimming Wednesdays: Quads, Hamstrings, Calves and Abs Thursdays: Swimming Fridays: Shoulders and Traps Saturdays: Cheat Day Sundays: Back and Biceps

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What are your thoughts? Thanks in advance for helping out with comments.

[derekkpapa1]

No no no no
Leave tren alone
Welcome to the forum anyway
P.s I am in a rush will add more shortly

[Capebuffalo]

For God sake have you done any research?

Austinite's Educational Article Database

My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

It's 7/30 btw

[derekkpapa1]

Wtf member over 2 years thats what up came up with. Sorry man that cycle could cause more harm than good.

[Capebuffalo]

Wtf member over 2 years thats what up came up with. Sorry man that cycle could cause more harm than good.

23% bf along with the train wreck

[nybxprstud]

Thanks Derekjpapa

[nybxprstud]

Thanks Capebuffalo,

Yes, I have been a member for two years..... Reading for the most part... I did start my cyc on the 28th.... The two links you provided will be read.... good stuff posted....

[Capebuffalo]

Ai? Hcg ? Pct?
You don't run novla during. Your bf makes you high risk for estrogen sides. I'd stop. Get my sh!t together and start again later.

I'm really not trying to be a dick but there is so much wrong here.

[David LoPan]

I guess first I should say is welcome back. You need to take a second look at that cycle. Test only would be the best advice. Tren will kill your cardio. At over 20% body fat your running a higher risk for a lot of things. I take it that you are wanting to bulk? Is that your goal?

You stated that your doctor is going to monitor you during cycle? Did you do pre-cycle blood work? You didn't tell him about tren did you? You can get a monitor pretty cheap and track your vitals. I would drop the tren and almost tell you to stop the test e. But if you your mind if made up on running a cycle just stay with test. You also need an AI. So you will know more of what you are taking here is another link or two you should read.
Ancillary Reference Guide
HCG: Why you should use it on-cycle only & how to prepare your hCG for injections

[lovbyts]

Why do people come here claiming they have been a spectator or browsing/lurking for a long time then come up with a BS cycle like this?

If you spent more than one hour surfing this site it would have been obvios that no one would approve of a cycle like that.

Oh yeah and your to fat.

[nybxprstud]

No offense taken Capebuffalo, thats why I posted what Im doing to get feedback, to get my sh!t together... I appreciate it. I didn't plan on AI, HCG or PCT... whats your recommendation?

[songdog]

WTF! Wat did you read since you been here?Redz failures with women? Beacuse NO one in their right mind would suggest you cycle at that bf much less running tren .Comwe on bro lets get it togeather and do this right.

[Capebuffalo]

For God sake have you done any research?

Austinite's Educational Article Database

My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

It's 7/30 btw

I suggest reading these.....

[nybxprstud]

Thanks Lovbyts for your none informative comment.

In regards to your "Why do people come here claiming they have been a spectator" ......... did you wake up and decide you wanted to be a body build at 5 years of age... it started somewhere? ... I decided to posted here to talk to informative and knowledgeable people. corrected but not bashed for my attempts Yup.... I have body fat... Thanks for the reminder

[songdog]

Thanks Lovbyts for your none informative comment.

In regards to your "Why do people come here claiming they have been a spectator" ......... did you wake up and decide you wanted to be a body build at 5 years of age... it started somewhere? ... I decided to posted here to talk to informative and knowledgeable people. corrected but not bashed for my attempts Yup.... I have body fat... Thanks for the reminder

We here dont want to see anyone get hurt! We preach doing things the safe way.So when someone says they been around for a while.And the ignore wat we teach.Thinking they can be lazy and take shortcuts.How do you expect them to act? Do you think we want you messing yourself up for life?

[nybxprstud]

Thanks BigTahl,

Yes, My main goal is to bulk and yes pre blood work was done. I did tell my doctor about the Tren ,.... but all I hear, is that I should drop the tren...... any reason why? I will look at the articles this morning.

[David LoPan]

Can you post a picture? I think that the fat comment was more thinking your a troll. If you have been reading you should know that one your cycle is horrible. You should have picked up on the basics. How is your diet and training. Have you been do a gym in a while?
I just did your math, if you have a physical job and workout everyday your TDEE is:3725. So your Diet is not clean. You need to spend some tie in here DIET AND NUTRITION way before you think of taking AAS.

[Capebuffalo]

You told your doctor? No no no

You can be denied insurance health and life because of it

[David LoPan]

Tren is a very harsh drug. I bet your doctor does not have a clue about what it is. Tren is not approved for human use so big mistake. Tren is for experienced AAS users. By telling your doctor about taking AAS you could have put your insurance and heath care at risk. Depends on your doctor and what they put in your chart.

[nybxprstud]

Thanks Songdog,

I highly doubt anyone here would want to cause harm in anyway... just by reading your post, its more informative then blank comments posted. And to tell you the truth, regardless of the endless reading, Im still confused.... this is why i decided to posted.... Safe is the path I would like to take.... Im looking at long term body building on or off a cycle.

thanks again...

[David LoPan]

Thanks BigTahl,

Yes, My main goal is to bulk and yes pre blood work was done. I did tell my doctor about the Tren,.... but all I hear, is that I should drop the tren...... any reason why? I will look at the articles this morning.

You need to lean up before you think about bulking up. Your running a lot of health risks trying to bulk with AAS at your BF. From high BP, heart issues to prostate problems.

You need to post a picture.

[Capebuffalo]

While you get down to 15% bf research research.

Test only. Ai-hcg -pct
Diet and training.

[nybxprstud]

Sure.... Pictures attached....

[nybxprstud]

Sorry.... I'll be clear..... My doctor is monitoring.... but is not submitting any paper work.

[nybxprstud]

I took my BF Count at Ballys last week with one of the trainers.... they told me it was 22-23 % so thats what I posted...

[Capebuffalo]

Sure.... Pictures attached....

You're lower than 23. 18-20

[David LoPan]

Thanks for posting. This pic should help more than a guy from Ballys. Visit and read some of the posts in DIET AND NUTRITION section and you should be able to get to 15 or less pretty fast. IMO you can get a lot of results with just diet and exercise without test for a while. Can you post your blood work. That will help a lot as well.

[qscgugcsq]

I havent read other comments so If it has been said sry for repeating.

Tren as a first cycle is not a good idea. I wont comment further on that.

you said that you have tren acetate dosed at 250mg/ml... which is ****ing alot and I dont think than real tren-a can be dosed that high...
maybe you have Tren-enanthate ?
normally acetate is dosed at 100mg/ml

You plan on running 500mg of test with the same of tren.
500mg of tren is alot for starting.
and you are aiming for alot of side effect if you run that high of testosterone with it.
most people(me include) feel way less side on low test(when mixed with tren)
you could consider dropping to 200/250mg/weeks. and maybe 350mg of tren. which is a good starting dose and you could increase if needed on cycle.

you said you would run nolvadex with tren... WTF!!!
that is the proof that you arent ready for aas and way not ready for tren...
Anyway...
Nolvadex wont reduce your estrogen...
Arimidex /aromasin will.
thats the kind of accilary you need. on cycle. to prevent E2 to build up

parmipexol/cabergoline/bromocriptine is what you to prevent the progestin side from tren.

HCG must be run during cycle not during pct.

if you are truly here for two years, you should know all of this...

Good luck, youll need it

[Capebuffalo]

I havent read other comments so If it has been said sry for repeating.

Tren as a first cycle is not a good idea. I wont comment further on that.

you said that you have tren acetate dosed at 250mg/ml... which is ****ing alot and I dont think than real tren-a can be dosed that high...
maybe you have Tren-enanthate ?
normally acetate is dosed at 100mg/ml

You plan on running 500mg of test with the same of tren.
500mg of tren is alot for starting.
and you are aiming for alot of side effect if you run that high of testosterone with it.
most people(me include) feel way less side on low test(when mixed with tren)
you could consider dropping to 200/250mg/weeks. and maybe 350mg of tren. which is a good starting dose and you could increase if needed on cycle.

you said you would run nolvadex with tren... WTF!!!
that is the proof that you arent ready for aas and way not ready for tren...
Anyway...
Nolvadex wont reduce your estrogen...
Arimidex /aromasin will.
thats the kind of accilary you need. on cycle. to prevent E2 to build up

parmipexol/cabergoline/bromocriptine is what you to prevent the progestin side from tren.

HCG must be run during cycle not during pct.

if you are truly here for two years, you should know all of this...

Good luck, youll need it

Yeah it been covered. Repeatedly. May want to read the post in the future.

[derekkpapa1]

It's a jeep thing you won't understand

[lovbyts]

Thanks Lovbyts for your none informative comment.

In regards to your "Why do people come here claiming they have been a spectator" ......... did you wake up and decide you wanted to be a body build at 5 years of age... it started somewhere? ... I decided to posted here to talk to informative and knowledgeable people. corrected but not bashed for my attempts Yup.... I have body fat... Thanks for the reminder

That makes as much sense as your first post.

No and I dont go onto a mustang forum claiming how I have been lurking and reading it for quite a while and then start talking about Camaros. Obviously either you either lied about doing any reading or your just stupid. Ill let you answer which one it is.

You told you doctor about the tren and then say he is just monitor. Sorry but but my BS meter is at 9.5

What bashing? Im pointing out facts.

[lovbyts]

Scared another one away.

[derekkpapa1]

Scared another one away.

We did not give him the answers he was looking for and you can be a little mean.

[lovbyts]

We did not give him the answers he was looking for and you can be a little mean.

I can be a lot more mean. Hehehe. Yeah I know, that's the problem they come asking for advice but if its not what they want to hear they just go looking elsewhere or get upset and whine.

[nybxprstud]

I'm still here, and again. I don't need to reply to the bull. Not informative

[derekkpapa1]

Capebuffalo above total you what should happen. what else are you looking for?

[Xander24]

Bro, I'm 35, have done more cycles than I have fingers and toes. My cycles usually look like this:

Test prop: 300mg/week
Mast prop: 400mg/week
75mcg t3/day

Clean diet. Off cycle I get up to around 15%bf and with the above I'm below 10% by week 10. This cycle I decided to run tren for 8 weeks. Know what happened? Mega hamstring cramps to the point I got 2 grade one strains in each hammy. No cardio capacity at all, and shitty sleep. And now I'm stuck playing catch-up on elevated estrogen levels and am having trouble maintaining erections. Don't do the tren, dude. Shit ain't worth it. Go 500mg of the test e only and run some t3. That will shave some blubber off ya and the diet will get you to your goals. Doing tren your first cycle is just silly. A rookie mistake. Like I said, I've been in this game a long time, ran tren, and it was a disaster. It happens, but honestly it shouldn't. Stop taking it. You are stupid if you don't. Always remember; with gear, LESS IS MORE. Keep the doses and number of compounds low and diet to achieve your goals. Screw tren.

[nybxprstud]

Bro, I'm 35, have done more cycles than I have fingers and toes. My cycles usually look like this: Test prop: 300mg/week Mast prop: 400mg/week 75mcg t3/day Clean diet. Off cycle I get up to around 15%bf and with the above I'm below 10% by week 10. This cycle I decided to run tren for 8 weeks. Know what happened? Mega hamstring cramps to the point I got 2 grade one strains in each hammy. No cardio capacity at all, and shitty sleep. And now I'm stuck playing catch-up on elevated estrogen levels and am having trouble maintaining erections. Don't do the tren, dude. Shit ain't worth it. Go 500mg of the test e only and run some t3. That will shave some blubber off ya and the diet will get you to your goals. Doing tren your first cycle is just silly. A rookie mistake. Like I said, I've been in this game a long time, ran tren, and it was a disaster. It happens, but honestly it shouldn't. Stop taking it. You are stupid if you don't. Always remember; with gear, LESS IS MORE. Keep the doses and number of compounds low and diet to achieve your goals. Screw tren.

Thanks. I will take your advice.

[nybxprstud]

Capebuffalo above total you what should happen. what else are you looking for?

Actually, Capebuffalo advise helped and the website he gave was beyond helpful. It was the first time I've come across it.

I guess now the question is, since I started test last week, and now adding Amrimadex and HCg
This week. (Sloppy start) I'm assuming it will be ok?

[derekkpapa1]

You will be fine.
Start a log in members cycle results log section.
Good luck with it.