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    Question goood or bad gains?????????

    i've gained 9 lbs in 7weeks on test ent 750mgs, 400mgs eq, and 30 mgs of d-ball for the first 4 weeks.........is this good or bad???????

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    Thats bad. Post your diet

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    you're not doing something right...

    is all your gear legit? what's your diet like?

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    Doesn't sound too good to me.
    You should have gained 5-8lbs from the d-bol alone.

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    thats prolly the weight he gained from the d-bol, its probably all water !

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    i've checked the web site for qv and all the lot numbers match, holograms have dots when peeled off, rounded labels....might diet does suck i haven't really done anything different from the rest of the year except cut out fast food and late night snacks......HELP

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    It's the calories we're looking for. Post up exactly what you eat in a day.

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    breakfast: ensure, coffee
    lunch: chicken, veg, carb
    pre workout snack:PBJ on whole wheat
    post workout: shake
    dinner: chicken or steak veg, carb
    late night snack:what ever

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    help me bros .Is my shit fake or what???????????

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    Originally posted by jay007
    breakfast: ensure, coffee
    lunch: chicken, veg, carb
    pre workout snack:PBJ on whole wheat
    post workout: shake
    dinner: chicken or steak veg, carb
    late night snack:what ever
    holy shit...that's all you eat?

    where's the 1.5gprotein/lb of body weight? you should be eating a tonne of cals (at least 3500 in my case)? you obviously need to evaluate your diet. get a good quality protein shake, eat a lot more at breakfast, and eat 6-7 meals/day...

    god...i can't believe you would go on a cycle with a diet like that! not a flame bro, but you should have planned your diet better! that's the root of your problem! i doubt it's your gear
    Last edited by halifaxsteve; 06-11-2003 at 01:24 PM.

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    it could be but also you should be around 4000cals a day eat lots of wieght gainers and pasta. eat like a horse and train like one"best quote i have heard"

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    Re: goood or bad gains?????????

    Originally posted by jay007
    i've gained 9 lbs in 7weeks on test ent 750mgs, 400mgs eq, and 30 mgs of d-ball for the first 4 weeks.........is this good or bad???????
    Lets see, i just gainged 12 pounds in 3.5weeks
    and im running 50mg dbol and 750 mg test.....
    Your a little ways behind, because i still got 8 weeks of test which is just kicking in now.....

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    at your height and weight, I think you'd need 2700-3000 cals on cycle. What you posted is extremely low and that brings no suprise to your gains.

    You need 6-8 MEALS. Forget about snacks

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    That's a pretty lame diet bro, you should be glad that you even did gain those 9 pounds. Go visit the diet forum and research.

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    if i increase my protein i should get better gains, i just don't want to put on fat weight by increasing the calories to much. its hard for me to eat 6 meals aday i work in an office.

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    Originally posted by jay007
    if i increase my <a href="http://www.allsportsnutrition.com/listproducts.php?style=category&value=PROTEIN" target="_blank">protein</a> i should get better gains, i just don't want to put on fat weight by increasing the calories to much. its hard for me to eat 6 meals aday i work in an office.

    Take a cooler to work.
    Gradually increase your cals over a period of time and monitor your BF%. You can then cut back on the food if fat gain becomes a problem or you can controll fat gain with cardio

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    Originally posted by jay007
    if i increase my <a href="http://www.allsportsnutrition.com/listproducts.php?style=category&value=PROTEIN" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.allsportsnutrition.com/listproducts.php?style=category&value=PROTEIN" target="_blank">protein</a></a> i should get better gains, i just don't want to put on fat weight by increasing the calories to much. its hard for me to eat 6 meals aday i work in an office.
    ok. i work in an office, and eat 6-7 meals a day. i come to work with a breifcase and laptop in one hand, and a bag full of food in another (not to mention a shaker and protien). everyone thought i was wierd when i first started...now it's a running joke

    protein is a step in the right direction, but you need calories to grow. when you're not getting enough calories in your diet, you body looks elsewhere to fuel it's current need (ie fat stores and MUSCLE).

    when you are on a cycle, you need to supply calories to grow. period. if you build up a little fat, clen , eca, or an nyc stack, whichever you prefer will help you shed the cushion.

    if you are more concerned about fat gain/loss, take pheedo's advice

    imo you should have chosen to wait until you're ready to commit to this properly, you're way off the map on your diet. you should have done more reasearch.

    start eating right and try to salvage what's left of your cycle.

    steve
    Last edited by halifaxsteve; 06-11-2003 at 02:14 PM.

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    i m commited thanks bros, now whats a eca stack and an nyc stack

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    eca is ephedrine, caffeine, aspirin like stacker 3 and the nyc is alot alike but all natural. get to allsportnutrition.com and take a look around.

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    so how are the ballet classes going LOL. with that diet you cant be tryin to get huge! eat brotha no matter what you eat you will still have some water from the dbol so you wont have an extremely ripped look!

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    nice diet ! need more calories !

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