how many compounds do you like to use when bulking ?

**leanmachine6** · 08-21-2014, 01:56 PM

how many compounds do all you guys like to use and to the advanced/experienced users do you find theres more of an advantage to having multiple compounds or not ? better off with a few compounds at a lower dose or say 2 compounds ran slightly higher when it comes to muscle mass ?

**MuscleInk** · 08-21-2014, 02:15 PM

Less is more. I'm done running cycles with numerous compounds. Too many variables to deal with and not worth the health risks IMO. It's easy to think more is better especially when the results are there and you "think" you are fine, but eventually it catches up with you.

I stick with one to two at most now.

Remember its a marathon, not a sprint.

**RangerDanger830** · 08-21-2014, 04:21 PM

Tren , Test, and everything that goes along with it is all I will ever run again for the rest of my life I imagine.

**MuscleInk** · 08-21-2014, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by RangerDanger830

Tren, Test, and everything that goes along with it is all I will ever run again for the rest of my life I imagine.

I haven't ruled out tren . It is one of my favorites but being overzealous with it last cycle was unpleasant. I'd certainly consider test+mast or test+tren (possibly) or simply test alone. No more oral anabolics for me or multiple compounds in a stack. I'm not a big fan of deca either.

Many of the vets here continue to do well with one or two compounds and many whom are older are probably in far batter shape than our younger guys who think they need everything including the kitchen sink in their steroid cocktails.

**Cuz** · 08-21-2014, 04:56 PM

All you need is test and tren or deca to bulk. And alot of food
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**Mp859** · 08-21-2014, 05:18 PM

I'll stick with my test/deca ,prop/npp with the occasional mast thrown in there. Love me some nandrolone . Tren is alright but I honestly prefer npp to tren.

**Darkness** · 08-21-2014, 05:27 PM

I've ran up to 4 at one point. Prop, tren , mast and winny on the last 4 weeks. Not something for a new guy with less than 6-10 cycles to try though.

**ScotchGuard02** · 08-21-2014, 06:35 PM

I like Test/NPP. It's smooth and not a lot of sides.

**Buster Brown** · 08-21-2014, 06:43 PM

I like test/tren /Winnie on a cut and tes/deca /dbol or tes/tren/ drol on a bulk. I never run any compound more then 500 mgs and try to keep it at a gram combined for all compounds per week . I find that as long as the gear is dosed properly ( or at least not severely under dosed) that this amount works well for me.

**Lee_1978** · 08-21-2014, 07:04 PM

It's interesting that Tren gets so much love because the sides sound pretty dreadful and l doubt l'll ever have the guts to try it. I'm a complete AAS novice mind you.

**Bigshotvictoria** · 08-21-2014, 07:10 PM

One, maybe two. I've lost 40lbs since a lower back injury, so I'm gonna see how easy it comes back with a test only this autumn.

**RangerDanger830** · 08-21-2014, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

I haven't ruled out tren . It is one of my favorites but being overzealous with it last cycle was unpleasant. I'd certainly consider test+mast or test+tren (possibly) or simply test alone. No more oral anabolics for me or multiple compounds in a stack. I'm not a big fan of deca either.

Many of the vets here continue to do well with one or two compounds and many whom are older are probably in far batter shape than our younger guys who think they need everything including the kitchen sink in their steroid cocktails.

I feel like for a recreational user you really don't need to do excessive amounts. I haven't done a plain Test cycle in a bit but I am confident if I just did a beginner Test only cycle I could still see good gains from it. I think a lot of guys tend to overcompensate gear for their lack in diet and/or nutrition.

I was the same way for Deca that you are with Tren.

Originally Posted by Cuz

All you need is test and tren or deca to bulk. And alot of food
.

Preach it!

Originally Posted by Lee_1978

It's interesting that Tren gets so much love because the sides sound pretty dreadful and l doubt l'll ever have the guts to try it. I'm a complete AAS novice mind you.

The sides are not all that terrible for a lot of guys as long as they know what they are doing, and as long as they do not use excessive doses. Some guys do get unlucky and see terrible sides even when doing it right but I see more people get bad sides from Tren on these forums from doing it wrong.

Originally Posted by Bigshotvictoria

One, maybe two. I've lost 40lbs since a lower back injury, so I'm gonna see how easy it comes back with a test only this autumn.

I know how the back injury is, I have wreaked havoc on the discs in my lower back.

**Bigshotvictoria** · 08-21-2014, 08:03 PM

I was just reading a post on reddits R/bodybuilding where a gentleman asks if 750mg tren / 1g test is enough to keep away muscle wasting while on a cut, or if he should up the tren. People underestimate both the power of these drugs, and the amount of work it takes from the user to eat and train properly.

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**RangerDanger830** · 08-21-2014, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by Bigshotvictoria

I was just reading a post on reddits R/bodybuilding where a gentleman asks if 750mg tren / 1g test is enough to keep away muscle wasting while on a cut, or if he should up the tren. People underestimate both the power of these drugs, and the amount of work it takes from the user to eat and train properly.

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Goodness gracious, that is insane. That is someone who clearly doesn't respect the potency of these compounds.

**MuscleInk** · 08-21-2014, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by Bigshotvictoria

I was just reading a post on reddits R/bodybuilding where a gentleman asks if 750mg tren / 1g test is enough to keep away muscle wasting while on a cut, or if he should up the tren. People underestimate both the power of these drugs, and the amount of work it takes from the user to eat and train properly.

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Been close to that. Certainly not worth it as I found out.

**tdoe11** · 08-21-2014, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by Bigshotvictoria

I was just reading a post on reddits R/bodybuilding where a gentleman asks if 750mg tren/ 1g test is enough to keep away muscle wasting while on a cut, or if he should up the tren. People underestimate both the power of these drugs, and the amount of work it takes from the user to eat and train properly. Sent from my iPhone using Forum

My last cut I ran less than 500mgs test and I cut up really nicely. Arms and chest are exactly the same size after losing 25lbs

**tectime** · 08-21-2014, 10:38 PM

As many as I can get in the barrel and still get enough dose ! Sometimes just use the ol 5 ml barrel so I don't have to leave any out! Hahaha! No really tes /deca my fav little stack! tes/deca/tren when it's get real serious. But you better have your shit in order to run that one!

**Deal Me In** · 08-21-2014, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

I haven't ruled out tren . It is one of my favorites but being overzealous with it last cycle was unpleasant. I'd certainly consider test+mast or test+tren (possibly) or simply test alone. No more oral anabolics for me or multiple compounds in a stack. I'm not a big fan of deca either.

Many of the vets here continue to do well with one or two compounds and many whom are older are probably in far batter shape than our younger guys who think they need everything including the kitchen sink in their steroid cocktails.

I'm curious why no Deca?

**MuscleInk** · 08-21-2014, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by Deal Me In

I'm curious why no Deca?

I've used NPP over deca in the past and have NPP for joint problems if they occur. For now I'm sticking to TRT until next summer. I like to avoid compounds that have more water retention and bloating associated with them and try to keep the gains lean.

**kelkel** · 08-22-2014, 10:34 AM

Most guys would do fine with just test if they're training and nutrition were on point. Remember, the overwhelming majority of guys don't compete or make money from this endeavor yet are readily willing to over complicate their cycles. Gets ridiculous seeing guys that look like swimmers running more compounds than I'd ever imagine. Waste of gear.

Rant over.

**MuscleInk** · 08-22-2014, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Most guys would do fine with just test if they're training and nutrition were on point. Remember, the overwhelming majority of guys don't compete or make money from this endeavor yet are readily willing to over complicate their cycles. Gets ridiculous seeing guys that look like swimmers running more compounds than I'd ever imagine. Waste of gear.

Rant over.

Not really a rant when you're speaking the truth.

**Deal Me In** · 08-22-2014, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

I've used NPP over deca in the past and have NPP for joint problems if they occur. For now I'm sticking to TRT until next summer. I like to avoid compounds that have more water retention and bloating associated with them and try to keep the gains lean.

That makes sense. Thanks.

**Lee_1978** · 08-23-2014, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Most guys would do fine with just test if they're training and nutrition were on point. Remember, the overwhelming majority of guys don't compete or make money from this endeavor yet are readily willing to over complicate their cycles. Gets ridiculous seeing guys that look like swimmers running more compounds than I'd ever imagine. Waste of gear.

Rant over.

Is that really the case?

I thought Tren was a better steroid in terms of gaining muscle because of its superior anabolic potential?

All the physiques I've seen of guys on Tren have been phenomenal. Can the same be achieved from cycling Test alone? If that's the case then then I'm sticking with Test!

What is the point of all these different compounds like Eq, Deca , Dbol and Tren when Test can seemingly do the same job? Is it all unecessary?

**kelkel** · 08-23-2014, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by Lee_1978

Is that really the case?

I thought Tren was a better steroid in terms of gaining muscle because of its superior anabolic potential?

All the physiques I've seen of guys on Tren have been phenomenal. Can the same be achieved from cycling Test alone? If that's the case then then I'm sticking with Test!

What is the point of all these different compounds like Eq, Deca, Dbol and Tren when Test can seemingly do the same job? Is it all unecessary?

Sure Tren is stronger, but that doesn't make it better. That's up to the individual and how they respond. My point, which you missed, is that most guys simply don't need all those compounds to make progress. The younger generation's "more is better" philosophy is simply making cycling more dangerous imho. And as stated, unless your making money from the sport is all that really worth it? For an ego boost or to impress the ladies? At what point does health become a consideration?