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    suspect912 is offline New Member
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    do you need pct if your not showing side effects

    Ive just finished my first cycle of 600 test e and 250 decca a week I went from 92kg to 102kg in 8 weeks the only effects I noticed was the testicle shrinkage and the weight gain its been 4 weeks since my last injection and the weight ive been lifting is still going up and I have mild pain in my left testicle just wondering if thats all im feeling do I really need pct of is something else happening here that im missing

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    Pct isnt just for side effects.
    Its to get your natural testosterone producing again. If u have ball shrinkage then definitely you need a pct.
    You clearly didn't do any research before you started pinning.
    Also i didnt see hcg in your post?

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    Yeh I know new to this got mates saying you dont need it then mates saying you do just wanted to get so more info I can get it just wast sure if it was needed by hcq not sure what you mean new to the forum

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    You should always run a pct.
    Look up the stickies it tells you everything you need to know about a first cycle

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    No worries cheers for the help better make sure I do it right dont wanna stuff myself up

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    I agree with anthg^^^. Unless you are on TRT, PCT is a must if you want your HPTA to return to normal (hopefully).

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    Pct required.
    Educate b4 you medicate.

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    U def need to plan a pct. It will help you recover your hpta and retain your gains. Without it you will lose much of what you have gained.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buster brown View Post
    without it you will lose much of what you have gained.
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    everyone's body respond different a lot of bold statement here especially since there's pros doing light short cycles no pct I see this everywere people act like your never guna produce testosterone again and you'll wither away to nothing without it wich isn't the case because EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT. I know plenty of people that successfully cycle with good blood work everytime and never pct that being said I definatly recommend you do a pct but statement like you loose everything may be true but nobody knows for sure because it's your body even tho a million other people lost everything without it doesn't mean you would if u don't but the chances are definatly against you

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    Quote Originally Posted by swolehead View Post
    everyone's body respond different a lot of bold statement here especially since there's pros doing light short cycles no pct I see this everywere people act like your never guna produce testosterone again and you'll wither away to nothing without it wich isn't the case because EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT. I know plenty of people that successfully cycle with good blood work everytime and never pct that being said I definatly recommend you do a pct but statement like you loose everything may be true but nobody knows for sure because it's your body even tho a million other people lost everything without it doesn't mean you would if u don't but the chances are definatly against you
    Please use punctuation.
    And pros don't bother with pct because they never come off.

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    Ya thats just crazy, cuz odds are stacked against you without the PCT. You wouldn't double down on a pair of kings in black jack hoping for an ace. Plus thats only money not your health. Just my 2cents!!

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    Ya that's just crazy, cuz odds are stacked against you without the PCT. You wouldn't double down on a pair of kings in black jack hoping for an ace. Plus that's only money not your health. Just my 2 cents!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by swolehead
    everyone's body respond different a lot of bold statement here especially since there's pros doing light short cycles no pct I see this everywere people act like your never guna produce testosterone again and you'll wither away to nothing without it wich isn't the case because EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT. I know plenty of people that successfully cycle with good blood work everytime and never pct that being said I definatly recommend you do a pct but statement like you loose everything may be true but nobody knows for sure because it's your body even tho a million other people lost everything without it doesn't mean you would if u don't but the chances are definatly against you
    At 44 years of age I have done cycles with and without . Unless you are cruising or on trt , pct is a wise choice. Pct does aid in recovery and you do have a better chance at keeping more gains then if you don't. I am speaking from experience and unless you have superior genetics, most will lose a great deal of their gains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anthg89
    Pct isnt just for side effects. Its to get your natural testosterone producing again. If u have ball shrinkage then definitely you need a pct. You clearly didn't do any research before you started pinning. Also i didnt see hcg in your post?
    You give advice now? Smh

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