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    tluchuk is offline New Member
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    E.D Post Cycle HELPPPP

    hey everyone i am a new member and i have some questions and information that will hopefully allow you to answer my questions.

    i ran 1c sus 250 eod for 8 weeks with tren ace 200 eod starting week 4 until week 8 then switched to t-enth 200 every 3 days for 4 weeks then down to 200 per week for two then every other week for 2 i ran 10 days of hcg 4 shots of 2500iu then started nova and clomid 40/40/20/20 150/150/100/50 i am currently still running clomid. around week 8 i lost all sex drive and had frequent e.d issues its been about 6 weeks and stilll nothing i got some cialis from the doc and some bloodwork done . here is my bloodwork please tell me what you think . i also ran arimidex 1mg eod off and on throughout my cycle which i believe is the cause of my estrogen being so high but let me know what you think.

    WBC 4.0-10.0
    6.5
    RBC 4.20-5.40
    5.11
    Hemoglobin 133-165
    145
    Hematocrit 0.38-0.50
    0.44
    MCV 82-98
    87
    MCH 27.5-33.5
    28.4
    MCHC 305-365
    327
    RDW 11.5-14.5
    16.1
    Platelet C... 150-400
    177
    Neutrophils 2.0-7.5
    3.5
    Lymphocytes 1.0-4.0
    2.2
    Monocytes 0.1-0.8
    0.6
    Eosinophils 0.0-07
    0.2
    Basophils 0.0-0.2
    0.0
    Granulocyt...
    0.0
    Sodium 134-154
    139
    Potassium 3.0-5.0
    3.9
    Creatinine 70-120
    100
    Estimated gfr...>60=
    78
    AST <30
    103
    TSH 0.27-4.2
    3.4
    Luteinizin... <10
    13.3
    Prolactin <15
    15.0
    Estradiol <150
    239
    Testostero... 8.4-28.8
    17.8
    Icterus A slight

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    What country are you in? I don't understand the testosterone result.

    Are the girls asking you to go bra shopping with them? Yeah your estro is off the chart and that will do it. get you some ai.

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    First, welcome to the forum.
    Second, who on earth advised you to run such a cycle?
    Third, you seriously have to self-educate before you hurt yourself. You're in the right place for that.
    Fourth, Tren anywhere near a first cycle is ridiculous.


    That being said, with high E can come high prolactin. Which is directly caused by tren and uncontrolled estrogen. Both will crush your libido. And no doubt your prolactin is high as well with sporadic E2 control. Controlling E2 controls prolactin. Do this and you won't have to use a dopamine agonist. Right now you need to lower your E and if you have a DA (caber) you can initiate that at a low dose such as .25 x 2 per week to bring what I'd assume is high prolactin down also, imho.

    Right now your system is hyper-stimulated from pct. What you did was basically a Scally Power PCT protocol. It's really the only thing you did relatively correctly, imho. No offense meant but it's time to learn. Consider cialis in the meantime while you work your E2 down. Retest the basics in about 6 weeks and see how you're doing. LH, FSH, E2 Sensitive assay (not estradiol,) TT and FT, Prolactin.

    You also need to get a full thyroid panel as your TSH is through the roof. Your lab used an old scale. Newer, more modern scale is .3 - 3.0 and you're above that. It's a cause of hypothyroidism. Do some reading at Stop the Thyroid Madness™ - Hypothyroidism and thyroid mistreatment.

    Know that you will fluctuate during pct as your body is searching for balance so be patient and smart throughout.

    Hope this helps.
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    im in canada EHHH lol nope no gyno all pecs bro . do you see any issues with my liver functions? im sure they will normalize over time im taking some milk thistle currently to help. the problem with an A.I is if i dont properly dose i will just rebound again correct? so start off at arim 0,25 oed and have my estro checked every 2-3 weeks?

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    How old are you? A-dex can allow estrogen to rebound and that might be it. Did you have ed on cycle? I don't use non-suicidal inhibitors so I can't speak to the timing.

    You testero result appears to be within proper range. I would stop taking everything.

    You say around week eight? into the cycle? or you've been pct for eight weeks?

    Your prolactin is at the upper limit of 15. so the test only goes to 15? or you just happened to fall right on the border. so prolactin is bad. look that up.

    when my estro is out of control i can get an erection but can't maintain.

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    i had e.d once i stopped running tren and switched to t enth from sust. i could obtain an erection but not maintain. on week 8 i starting having e.d issues and ive been pct for 4 weeks now. i believe i only have access to arim and maybe some aromasin . i happened to fall on the higher end of the prolactin anything higher than 15 would be off the chart. im 26 ive run some cycles before but when i was 19 ran some hgh, anadrol , tren, sust the whole shaabamm back in the day never had this issue once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tluchuk View Post
    im in canada EHHH lol nope no gyno all pecs bro . do you see any issues with my liver functions? im sure they will normalize over time im taking some milk thistle currently to help. the problem with an A.I is if i dont properly dose i will just rebound again correct? so start off at arim 0,25 oed and have my estro checked every 2-3 weeks?
    So dose small and retest frequently if you like. You got into this mess now you have to get out safely. Or you can wack it with a larger dose for a week then drop your dose back and retest in a few weeks to get an idea where you're at. It's a guessing game how you respond and it's why we test (with the right test)

    Didn't look at your liver function till now. Get NAC and use that. Much better than MT. I'd dose around 2400mgs per day and retest it when you do all else. Livers are very resilient. It'll be fine.

    Did you run an oral too?
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    even with hcg i still have some testicular atrophy should i re run my pct with an a.i? or would that just throw my hormones all over the place again? im new to this hcg stuff never had to use it before amd there are so many different opinions on the use of it.no i didnt run any orals im not very fond of them and theyre faked in mass quantities so i dont usually bother
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